EU: New Pact on Migration and Asylum

The EU is "institutionally borderphobic" - fundamentally it does not believe in borders.

Developing countries are more than willing to export their surplus jobless young males who will eventually end up contributing billions to the family they left behind, in the form of foreign remittance in hard currency; either from honest work, or crime, or even social welfare contributions (hand outs, paid by taxpayers). A EU minimum salary is, in the eyes of populations in developing countries, enormous when converted and well worth risking everything for.
Mr Antonio Guitterrez of the UN warns us this week that humans are destroying the planet, and he gives a long list of causes but leaves out the most important; massive overpopulation with worse to come, mostly in developing countries which are unable to offer education or jobs to their young populations. The migrant remittances sent home now outweigh the development aid. Why would any developing country agree to stop this manna from heaven?

The EU claims it is not sovereign. It should not be able to impose third world economic migrants on sovereign countries.

We Europeans are not the Rubbish Bin of the third world!

While sympathetic to the concerns of the Visegrad group, it seems to me that they could finesse the situation by agreeing to take a token number of migrants, say a few hundred each. This would present no long-term demographic or cultural threat to them but would neuter the Eurocrat charge that they are xenophobes and bad faith members of the community. Turning it into a confrontation with the EU and by extension Germany and France might suit short-term domestic political expediencies but in the long run it will hurt their economies. It is a small price to pay for membership in the community without risking export markets and foreign investment.

Smoke and mirrors?
The time limit of 8 months to return illegal migrants is a nonsense. The people smugglers will just employ lawyers who will frustrate the system!
This needs to be a black and white system, no shades of grey. If you turn up without ID you get returned. If you are a genuine refugee running for your life you will keep everything to prove who and what you are. Opportunistic migrants seek to cloud their true ID and intent and should be returned immediately.
The current, and this proposed system, penalise the legitimate refugee from the illegal migrant. That is the main moral issue!

I honestly feel ashamed that my country, Romania, is not standing in solidarity with the rest of the East and Central EU countries with which we share a common history, struggles and heritage. Same goes for Bulgaria or Slovakia or the former Yugo countries. We understand the Western countries are too far gone. But many here in the East have only achieved independence roughly 150 years ago, and one of the reasons we fought so damn hard was because of a foreign culture and religion that was never a good match for us and numerous atrocities from the occupiers.

This is not about race or even ethnicity. Hungarians would feel just as apprehensive about mass Romanian migration in Hungary, for example, and one cannot tell us apart in most cases until we speak. But history is important, and we remember that we just didn't get along well at all in a not so distant past.
The suicidal West needs to be stopped. And for that a broad coalition in the East needs to happen, where we put our local disagreements aside and come together to maintain our way of life.

By allowing the influx of illegal invaders, potential terrorists and missionaries the Europeans commit national suicide. How ironic that 350 years ago the Habsburgs liberated Europe from the Ottoman invaders, but today the EU invite the same kind of invaders. Some people never learn from history.

The EU immigration laws are antiquities that predate the mass terror movements and counter-terror actions following 9/11. The newer countries though also plagued with do-nothing bureaucracies have the advantage of being organized post-9/11.

Either EU officials start listening the citizens or there will be a demand for the dissolution of the EU, and a total reform of political systems across the EU, especially concerning the accountability of politicians both in and out of office, and their punishment in necessary cases.
As for asylum seekers in the EU, all those who cannot prove who and what they are should be deported immediately, and traffickers have been using the legal system to delay deportations, and this is unacceptable. Most asylum seekers have not respected International agreements concerning the first safe haven, and they also should be deported. As for the millions of migrants illegally in the EU they should be deported or imprisoned (with hard labour).

The EU should not and cannot take all migrants who want to come , as the vast majority are economic migrants which the EU has no use for and no work with the millions of unemployed EU citizens. Also what about the 100+ million EU citizens living in poverty, who should get help, not immigrants.

Perfect democracy is a very fragile host system which allows the growth of hostile organisations which openly call for the destruction of the host. For example Nazi overthrow of democratic Germany.

Surely it is time to accept an imperfect democracy which does not allow the growth of religious/political organizations (via extraordinarily high birth rates, intimidation of opponents, and /or immigration etc) whose aim is the permanent installation of these organisations into government and overthrow of existing imperfect democracy.

Sounds to me like they have a perfect solution, the other 24 states can do whatever they want as long as Hungary, Poland, and the Czech Republic don't have to participate! That works just fine for me and them.

There may be an international response that might effectively deal with the mass migration situation or problem, if the European states could effectively coordinate their efforts: why not engage all African nations in conference to ascertain if a united program for providing proper sustenance for African nations can be provided for, and arranged through united actions of both continents - that might take some time but could bring international relief all-round : "Nothing ventured, nothing gained" !

Very important article. Thank you, Judith.
The average citizen knows three different polarities emerging. Islam is to follow.
1. The Judaeo-Christian influence: the golden rule. Do unto others.
2. Civil law, which has evolved from this base over many years, in which monarchies have been replaced by democracy.
3. A trojan horse, that arrived from the U.S. when its constitution was effectively changed. The U.S. Supreme court was literally paid off by the Humanist Foundation. This cop-out (which can easily be refuted by NDE's) has now spread globally.
If you dilute (1) above sufficiently then (2) automatically has no basis. Margaret Thatcher arrived to restore- a deeply Christian sensible woman who knew what motivates people, what works. It is not understood by Ursula Von De Leyen who leads the EU. It is NOT fully embraced by the Catholic Church hierarchy, who clearly are on a learning curve.
4. Enter Islam. This becomes particularly complicating because Islam by nature is on jihad, and has no intention of assimilating. They also know the importance of (1) above- that is clear from the two desecrations per day of French churches).
The exception is conversion to Christianity- one stat claims their conversion at 670 per hour. Meanwhile migrants (illegal or otherwise) need to be fed, clothed, housed. Who pays? Welfare; which arrives via taxation. French yellow vests made this abundantly clear. Macron was taught a lesson. He learnt another lesson with the barbaric slaughter of a French educator. Now planet earth knows. Does the EU?
Its actions to penalise Hungary, Poland, the Czech republic and others for non-compliance does not come from a conglomerate with a Judaeo-Christian base, and this is obvious.
What can be done?
People who do not know need to hand over the reins to those who do. That much this article makes clear.
But will they?
One thing is certain:
The 'bonhomie' of several member states is being taken for granted by the EU, and they know it. Brexit has given them all a golden opportunity to reject any EU tyranny.

We must state the facts as they are; the term "international protection" has in most instances become a euphemism for seeking a better life. The destination states benefit directly from the growth in population from a growing economy which offsets the sclerosis of mature post WW2 European economies.

Continued and uncontrolled growth in a finite world must contrary to the objectives of any sensible world leader. A new way must be found to continue the high living standards in the West without maintaining economic growth by continually importing more and more people under the guise of humanitarian immigration. Such policy is nothing more than a huge and damaging Ponzi scheme that like all such previous schemes, must inevitably fail.

The social fabric of Western destination nations will fail if "multiculturalism" continues to be imposed on the increasingly hostile EU natives. The push back against non-European migration is growing and the EU political elites know it, but they continue to pass their increasingly draconian legislation to ensure submission of their member states and their native citizens. Such legislation is bound to fail because one of the deepest human psychological factors is that of kin recognition. Kin recognition is a powerful emotion and no amount of legislation will ever suppress it. People simply don't want to change their culture, their belief systems to accomodate some "coffee coloured" and where "everything is equal" world. They want their children and grandchildren to experience their culture, their history, their beliefs: and what is wrong with these expectations?

The EU native has paid taxes to create the wealthy new Europe, why should they give it away to people who self-select Europe as a destination. Wasn't WW2 fought over defending their respective territories, physical assets, culture, beliefs and way of life? Most un-controlled migrants live on the EU member's social welfare systems for many years, if not for life. Wouldn't that money spent of lifelong welfare be better spent on developing their native states?

The EU arose out of the carnage and destruction of WW2. If the feelings of the EU natives towards uncontrolled immigration of non-European migrants are not addressed by EU immigration policy, then WW2 will look like nothing but a soccer game "punch-up" compared to what will come from continued and un-controlled immigration being imposed upon the EU natives.

Time to get rid of the Brussels globalist control over individual countries. Their people are patriots and they built these countries and their population does not want to be diluted by whoever the EU elite decide they should be. Time to get out of the EU and out from under their control

No country should have to take in extra people they cannot afford. Especially if Muslim countries also refuse to take Muslim 'refugees'. I am so worried Biden will sell us to the EU! What can we do when we already have a few million homeless, no affordable housing being built and the Pandemic! USA will have trouble like France and other European countries and we do not want it. We have to DO something.

There will be no Europe within a generation or two.
The birthrate of Europeans has dropped below replacement level, and the birthrate of immigrants is growing. What does anybody think will happen?

Smoke and mirrors?
The time limit of 8 months to return illegal migrants is a nonsense. The people smugglers will just employ lawyers who will frustrate the system!
This needs to be a black and white system, no shades of grey. If you turn up without ID you get returned. If you are a genuine refugee running for your life you will keep everything to prove who and what you are. Opportunistic migrants seek to cloud their true ID and intent and should be returned immediately.
The current, and this proposed system, penalise the legitimate refugee from the illegal migrant. That is the main moral issue!

Bureaucracies start to solve a problem and sometimes with good intent. When they partially solve the problem they expand the permit to make up for the shortfall. Before too long they are doing things that have nothing to do with the original purpose. The EU started as the EC, which was trying to reduce trade tariffs.

The more migrants the EU allows in, the more unlivable the place will become.

One question that no one seems to ask; Why does Europe need mass migration at all? Everyone can see the damage it is doing to the cultural structure of the various nation states so why are we continuing to do it? It is a form of national self harming.

On further reflection, Covid has no import on illicit migrations" What does that say about the reality of Covid? One way to tell if people truly believe Covid is life-threatening to the degree governments have made it to advance socialist medical programs is if the cost of paying coyotes has gone up as a result.

I am going to respond to this practically. The problem starts where these people are coming from and why they are so desperate to leave.
North Africa and Africa in general has major water shortages, an estimated 300 million people without potable water. Is the only solution migration? Is there any possibility that lands can be reclaimed, are we going to continue to be exploited and greened into the loss of large tracts of lands and the displacement of peoples to prove climate change is real? When are the world leaders going stand up and actually do something that doesn't just make their political caste richer, in the name of socialism? I can not help but feel Europe's problem is in large part their own fault for letting bad people make bad choices for them. They think globally? but are afraid to cross the Med and stop the problems causes where they start.

The "New Pact" is another bureaucratic solution that doesn't address the real problem of smuggling migrants into communities that don't want or need them. If the do-gooders at the EU were really serious about helping migrants, they would do more to help them in their home countries so they wouldn't be desperate to leave. They would also stop the smuggling and require any resettled migrants to assimulate into their new culture and become productive citizens.

The huge migration to Europe and elsewhere is mainly caused by very high birthrates in Africa and Asia and the inability of those areas to sustain their own populations. The problem is likely to increase and will eventually overwhelm the more prosperous countries of the West.

'The European Union remains fundamentally divided over the question of migration into the continent....'

The European Union remains fundamentally divided - period. If you're going to build a 'union' from pre-existing national components, you should at least have the sense to ensure that there's enough potential for overall 'unity' in them before you start, otherwise you end up with a ragbag of incompatibility that can only be made to function as a 'Union' by beating the various bits into the shape you want to make them fit - and the German Third Reich and Russian Soviet Union were the only ones in recent times who seemed to know about that sort of thing. Otherwise, you'll have the dubious privilege of demonstrating that the currently fashionable mantra 'in diversity is strength' is no more than a fatuous fantasy.

Every country has its rules on migration and illegal migration but never implement them. it has not stopped the trafficking gangs with help from NGOs from bringing migrants and potential terrorists from other continents to Europe and Governments rarely deport migrants or undesirables without legal papers. There are according to reports, over 7 million illegal migrants in the EU.
There are three reasons to stop all migration for the foreseeable future.
1. The Covid 19 health crisis which has led to a health risk, travel restrictions and massive unemployment in the EU reducing the need for immigrants
2. The massive increase in the population of Africa and Asia with 6 billion people, of whom hundreds of millions seek a better life in Europe
3. The gradual transformation of our Judeo/Christian culture into an Asian and African melting pot where Europeans will be ethnic minorities on their own continent This is not xenophobia but simple mathematics

The problem lies with Moslem immigration from countries or communities exposed or subject to Islamist manipulation.