Geert Wilders: "In My Opinion, Islam Is Not a Religion"

by Telegraaf and Geert Wilders
September 16, 2017 at 9:53 am

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/11009/geert-wilders-in-my-opinion-islam-is-not

Translations of this item:

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"Not long ago Professor Koopmans found that as much as seventy percent of Muslims find Islamic rules more important than secular laws." – Geert Wilders.
"Research also points out that 11 percent of Dutch Muslims in the Netherlands are prepared to use violence on behalf of their religion. That is a 110,000 people, twice the size of the Dutch army!" – Geert Wilders.
I personally believe there are extremist people and moderate people. But I do not believe in two kinds of Islam. There is only one.... You get your head chopped off should you wish to interpret Islam.... People who want to come to the Netherlands from Islamic countries should think: this is not a place we want to go to! And we do not do this to bully Muslims, but to keep the Netherlands of the future a free Netherlands." – Geert Wilders.

Party for Freedom leader Geert Wilders is deeply concerned about Muslim integration. In our series Islam in the Netherlands he is warning about the "perishing"of our culture. "It is not five to twelve or two to twelve, it is almost morning!" The leader of the second party in the country is pondering about very far-reaching measures.

Geert Wilders (54) is not surprised at the shocking poll results released by daily newspaper De Telegraaf. The fact that only thirteen percent of the Dutch population feel that the problem of integration will solve itself is a writing on the wall, according to him. And that only eleven percent of the Dutch see Islam as an enrichment proves in his opinion that what he has been calling for years. "If I had said that three years ago, I would have had tens of thousands of police reports thrown at me. But people are completely fed up with it. "

How do you explain the figures?

"Decades ago, a few thousand people from Islamic countries would stay temporarily. But temporarily turned out to be permanently. Those thousands of guest workers became hundreds of thousands. And in Europe millions of people by now. Back then those people were called upon to integrate and assimilate. But Islam, the word says it already, seeks to dominate. Not long ago Professor Koopmans found that as much as seventy percent of Muslims find Islamic rules more important than secular laws. In Europe almost weekly innocent people are slaughtered in name of Allah and Islam. Proudly. We have been declared war and we refuse to defend ourselves."

Who is responsible for this?

"I think that probably the worst of all is that Western European politicians have allowed this to happen. Last week Sybrand Buma of the Christian democratic party CDA was suddenly critical of Islam. That is like a bank robber who, twenty years after the robbery, has spent all the money and apologizes for doing so. He is the one who did it. CDA has been in power in the Netherlands for 50 years. "

Is it not a bit blunt to say ...

"No!"

... that Muslims do not integrate?

"I am talking about Islam. But research also points out that 11 percent of Dutch Muslims in the Netherlands are prepared to use violence on behalf of their religion. That is a 110,000 people, twice the size of the Dutch army! "

But perhaps many Muslims in fact take Islam less serious and profess their faith behind the front door, peacefully. Secretary Asscher of Integration said in this paper last week that those people should not be held accountable for terrorist attacks.

"Do you know, secretary Asscher and Prime Minister Rutte are two sides of the same coin. After the second attack in June, Rutte said that Muslims are double the victim, because they are not only victims of attacks, but also blamed for it as a group. For all I care everyone is free to get all teary-eyed but we will perish if we continue. It reminds me of what happened after the murder of Theo van Gogh. Some people, even members of the Royal House, went to a mosque as a first response. That is total cowardice. We are the victims."

Who are we? Does it not also include those Muslims not engaged in fanaticism? This way people are categorized into a group they do not feel connected to at all.

"Then take your distance from that group. Of course I do not say that all Muslims are cheering at an attack. But I can hardly listen to it, the terror attack commemorations in Parliament. I think we have had ten to twelve this year. I am attending, out of respect for the relatives and the victims and will continue to do so. But every time Rutte reads the same a4-format paper, only altering the name of the city and country where the attack took place. The man does not show any action. "

How do you liberate yourself from the Islamic yoke in your opinion?

"Leave Islam."

So people must renounce their faith?

"There is nothing they must do. But I would tell: freedom is such a splendorous thing. You do not have anything like it in Islam. I can not force people to leave Islam. They must above all realize what is going on in their minds. But the real concern is what happens in the public space. What is happening in my country and whether we should have more or less of that. "

There are also Muslims who were born in the Netherlands. The country is just as much their country as it is yours.

"For those people that could apply, but not to Islam."

But according to the constitution it does, a Muslim born here is considered Dutch. According to the Constitution he or she has an equal right to express what the Netherlands should look like.

"We live in a free country. But in my opinion Islam is not a religion. It is a totalitarian, dangerous and violent ideology, dressed up as a religion. People are allowed to think whatever they like, but I also have the right to say that Islam should not be included in the constitutional freedoms.

Can a Muslim not just be moderate?

"According to the Quran that is not possible. I personally believe there are extremist people and moderate people. But I do not believe in two kinds of Islam. There is only one. One that is impossible to reform. And even if it would be the case, we can not afford to wait for another 150 or 300 years. I think it will never happen. You get your head chopped off should you wish to interpret Islam."

What do you think should happen?

"Recognize the problem. Dare to say that Islam does not integrate. Define Islam as a violent totalitarian undemocratic thing. And stop immigration from Islamic countries. During cabinet Rutte II, a 100,000 Muslims were added. These are not all terrorists or bad people, but it is 100,000 times more Islam entering the Netherlands."

There was a war. People were on the move, lost their homes.

"That was not the case. If they were refugees, they would have stopped in the first safe country after Syria. By the way, this is also part of the solution: all Syrians must return! Tomorrow! Why not? That country is safe. This is our country. Why would a Syrian be able to return from the refugee camps in Jordan or Lebanon and not from a refugee centre here? "

Because the land is in ruins and dictator Assad uses poison gas against his own people for example.

"There are many countries in the world that have not very pleasant regimes."

Back to the Netherlands. We also have a constitution in this country that protects such things as freedom of education and religion. Should that be altered?

"I do not see the word Islam in any constitution, but in jurisprudence Islam is considered to be a religion."

Do you want to put into law that Islam is not a religion?

"We will have to see about legal possibilities Can it be done, how can it be done and what way can it be done. But it's definitely worth studying"

So you want to ban Islam?

"I do not rule out that this may be necessary in the long run. It will concern the expressions. You can not ban an idea, that's impossible. You can not ban communism either. "

There is religious freedom in this country. But you want to record that Islam is not a religion.

"In my opinion it is not part of religious freedom. That is my political wish. How to execute such a thing is wish number two. "

That is very useful for a politician if he makes a statement. What should we think of?

"That is what we have to look into. I have now lifted a tip of the veil. "

Many people will be startled when they read this.

"We are not going to collect Qurans from people's homes. What is going on behind their front door is their business. We are talking about public space, but it is too early to say anything about it now. "

Does this not make it very casual?

"No. I have ventilated this for ten years.

"Some things you mention you have. But banning Islam is something different.

"If it is possible to put it into law, we will put it into law. But it will be about expressions. Recently we have also drafted an administrative detention bill for jihadists. I realize all problems will not be solved tomorrow by closing a mosque. You must make it unattractive in this country to profess Islam. People who want to come to the Netherlands from Islamic countries should think: this is not a place we want to go to! And we do not do this to bully Muslims, but to keep the Netherlands of the future a free Netherlands."

Are Islam and modernity compatible? Photo: Wikipedia.

This interview was published today in De Telegraaf, the largest daily newspaper in The Netherlands, and was translated by the Party for Freedom.

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John Clapperton • Sep 21, 2017 at 11:36

https://www.academia.edu/29926658/Is_Islam_a_religion_in_UK_law

"61. This means that you can believe in carrying out human sacrifice every Thursday but UK law will not recognize your belief as a religion, even if that belief forms part of a body of beliefs which meet the first four of the Grainger criteria (but clearly not the fifth). Nor will UK law afford you any legal protection based on religious freedom under Article 9 if you attempt to put that belief into practice."

More fully:

"The 'Grainger criteria'
8. The criteria for determining whether beliefs qualify in law either as a religion or as a philosophical belief were determined in Grainger Plc & Ors v. Nicholson [2009] UKEAT 0219_09_0311 (http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/UKEAT/2009/0219_09_0311.html). Of course, the underlying case law of the European Court of Human Rights goes back decades.
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10. This shows:
a. that all five of the Grainger criteria must be met for beliefs to qualify as a religion or a philosophical belief in law;
b. that the Grainger criteria apply in relation to the Equalities Act 2010 as well as in relation to the Employment Equality (Religion or Belief) Regulations 2003;
c. the application of the Grainger criteria in a recent (2016) court case.
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22. The Grainger criteria are given at 24:
'I do not doubt at all that there must be some limit placed upon the definition of "philosophical belief" for the purpose of the Regulations, but before I turn to consider Mr Bowers' suggested such limitations, I shall endeavour to set out the limitations, or criteria, which are to be implied or introduced by reference to the jurisprudence set out above:

(i) The belief must be genuinely held.
(ii) It must be a belief and not, as in McClintock, an opinion or viewpoint based on the present state of information available.
(iii) It must be a belief as to a weighty and substantial aspect of human life and behaviour.
(iv) It must attain a certain level of cogency, seriousness, cohesion and importance.
(v) It must be worthy of respect in a democratic society, be not incompatible with human dignity and not conflict with the fundamental rights of others (paragraph 36 of Campbell and paragraph 23 of Williamson).'
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45. The meaning of the word 'religion' was considered further by the Supreme Court in Hodkin & Anor, R (on the application of) v Registrar-General of Births, Deaths and Marriages [2013] UKSC 77
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'Their critical conclusion was at p 136:
"We would therefore hold that, for the purposes of the law, the criteria of religion are twofold: first, belief in a supernatural Being, Thing or Principle; and second, the acceptance of canons of conduct in order to give effect to that belief, though canons of conduct which offend against the ordinary laws are outside the area of any immunity, privilege or right conferred on the grounds of religion."'
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48. Note that it is 'canons of conduct' (that is, sets of rules governing conduct - necessarily divine sets of rules given the religious context), not just conduct itself, that is outside the area of any immunity, privilege or right conferred on the grounds of religion. This means that a 'canon of conduct' which advocates criminal acts, not just the criminal acts themselves, will not qualify for any immunity, privilege or right conferred on the grounds of religion.

49. These excluded immunities, privileges or rights would necessarily include legal recognition as a religion in the first place because it is from such recognition that all other legal immunities, privileges and rights flow.
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59. The question arises that if Article 9 ECHR guarantees an absolute right to hold any belief (and the right under Article 9 is referred to in Boughton as an 'absolute right'), how can UK law, which must comply with the ECHR, not recognize certain beliefs?

60. The answer is that UK law, in compliance with ECHR, does not place restrictions on what a person is allowed to believe, but it does say, as shown above, that beliefs will not be recognized as a religion if they are not worthy of respect in a democratic society or are incompatible with human dignity or conflict with the fundamental rights of others - in accordance with the ECHR case law on Article 9. This case law is binding on all UK courts.

61. This means that you can believe in carrying out human sacrifice every Thursday but UK law will not recognize your belief as a religion, even if that belief forms part of a body of beliefs which meet the first four of the Grainger criteria (but clearly not the fifth). Nor will UK law afford you any legal protection based on religious freedom under Article 9 if you attempt to put that belief into practice."

https://www.academia.edu/29926658/Is_Islam_a_religion_in_UK_law

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Nonie Darwish • Sep 20, 2017 at 15:28

I agree with Geert Wilders. Islam was created 600 years after Christ as a rebellion against the Bible and the Ten Commandments. That was the theme of my latest book "Wholly Different"

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Jude Meritus

Nonie Darwish • Sep 21, 2017 at 12:03

I came to the same conclusion as an ordinary Christian attempting to find the truth behind Islam. It is being wickedly and cleverly used as a stick with which to beat Christianity to death, which it is within sight of achieving and why we should be looking to the Bible to see the end-game. Jesus wins! But there is a time prophesied of the greatest tribulation ever to come upon the world and western politicians in alliance with elitist aggressive atheists and inter-faith forces are deceiving millions with their utopian dreams. I have expanded on this in my longer post here in reply to Mark Matthias's post of 16/09. It is also a chapter in my own book Magna Carta R.I.P? published for the 800th Anniversary in 2015. I shall be most interested to locate your book and read it - I hope it can enlighten some of my family and friends who will not accept it from a British born indigenous Christian and dismiss Geert Wilders as an Islamophobe!

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Eileen • Sep 19, 2017 at 14:36

I think Geert Wilders will go down in Dutch history as a hero who spoke out in defense of the Netherlands in the face of adversity! It takes a brave man to go against the flow for what he believes in and history will prove him right!

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Judy Wall • Sep 19, 2017 at 01:32

Western Civilization is promoting self-annihilation through political insanity. Western leaders are forcing their people to accept unwanted burdens and terrorism from foreigners. They act as if it is of no consequence that their own people are seriously downtrodden to accommodate the ingrates that mean them much harm, if not immediately, then certainly in the long term. And why? Why do the leaders of the Western World think that they have to be doormats to everyone who desires entrance to their country? This misguided thinking will bring about total ruin of our once great countries.

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Laurie Dinerstein-Kurs • Sep 18, 2017 at 22:59

Yes, I do understand the dark side of Islam and its underlying ideology of dispersing to other lands to establish Islam as the predominant and ONLY ideology to to survive aka world domination - The fighting between sunni and shiite is basically over which side is going to prevail and be the BIG mufti. The Islamic State is the infighting over who will win the power - the Sunni Muslim Fundamentalists or the tribal Shiites??

The dream of re-creating a caliphate has been a driving force. One such fundamentalist group are the Sunni which includes al-Qaida. Their dreams of reconquering, overpowering and ruling the world, have risen from the ashes.

Their belief in violence to accomplish their goal is scary. The goal of an Islamic State using Jihad is part and parcel of their tactics. While the probability of a new caliphate is unlikely - they are willing to die trying and to take us with them.

I am absolutely flawed at how civilized societies around the world are enabling and even inviting Muslims to migrate or immigrate to their countries and REFUSE to see the danger to ALL civilized countries.

A short analogy: If I know you love M&M's........and I, as a good friend, purchase a bag of M&M's for you. I know you will invite your grandkids to enjoy them. Before I, hand the bag over to you...I tell you," I poisoned ONE of the M&M's. What are the chances you will still offer that bag to your grandkids??

Similarly, since most government officials in most countries do NOT speak 10 different dialects of Arabic there is no way to meaningfully question muslim foreigners who want entry. If we let in 100 Muslims today and only ONE has terrorism in mind...do we reject all on the basis of that one....or open the doors and let everyone in and whatever happens - happens. Is that good government??

To date - we, civilized countries that believe in rights and freedom are being overrun by those who don't. We are our own worst enemy!! Geert Wilders has been 1930% right on target. Sadly only WE, his captive audience - is listening!

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chaz edson • Sep 18, 2017 at 12:17

The question is,' Is Islam a force for good'. It becomes clearer by the atrocity that Islam is not and never could be. It is very definitely a force for evil. There may be some indoctrinated individuals who practice their belief in a good and peaceful way, but the writing and accurate interpretations of their book calls without doubt for wicked immoral and evil deeds to be carried out to anyone and everyone who may be considered a threat to the spread. Like Cancer it will continue to spread unless checked and stopped. It seems a human condition for some to embrace the obvious evil that is happening. Though I am not a particularly religious person, I have to think that if there is such a being as Satan, then he is well on with his plan to send the planet into a darkness that will bring misery and death to all.

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Im4truth4all • Sep 18, 2017 at 10:20

Here are clear statements of the Koran itself :

"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." Koran 2:191

"Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood." Koran 9:123

"When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them." Koran 9:5

"Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable." Koran 3:85

"The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them."... Koran 9:30

"Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam" Koran 5:33

"Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies." Koran 22:19

"The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them." Koran 8:65

"Muslims must not take the infidels as friends." Koran 3:28

"Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur'an." Koran 8:12

"Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels." Koran 8:60

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Michael Dable • Sep 18, 2017 at 06:17

Remain steadfast Geert, common sense must surely prevail, hopefully the time gap will not be as extended as is being evidenced in Burma. The Muslim people of Bengal moved into Burma almost three hundred years ago, it is only now that the Buddhists of Burma feel that enough is truly enough. Looks horrific in the media, to sell newspapers they play on human sympathy, which understandably favors the Muslims.

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Ho • Sep 18, 2017 at 02:53

Islam is a political tool disguised as a religion to achieve world domination. Everywhere it enters, islam promotes hate and division among the people. It seeks to destroy and conquer.

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Mildred knoll • Sep 18, 2017 at 01:38

Thank you for this detailed article on the basic concept that Islam is not a religion but an ideology.

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Bart Benschop • Sep 17, 2017 at 23:30

Dear Sir,
The word Islam is an archaic Qur'an word that means submission to Al Shari'iah, the law of Allah.
The word religion is Greek / Latin and means believing in Gods.
In Al Shari'iah believing and multiple Gods are both enormities punishable by death. Muslims are people who submit to Al Shari'iah. They do not pray, instead they confirm their submission to Al Shari'iah. Al Shari'iah has no forgiving. Al Shari'iah is absolute eking the law of Allah. It is impossible to change.

Kind regards

Bart Benschop
bbenschop@iinet.net.au

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Lynette • Sep 17, 2017 at 20:31

I agree with Geert that Islam is not a religion. I believe it is a system that produces hate, cruelty, draconian punishments, violence, extremism, darkness and death. Its worst aspect is that it's creeping into schools and not very slowly either. The question is: what is this madness that seems to be blinding even normally-sensible people into embracing it?

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Geoffrey White

Lynette • Sep 23, 2017 at 06:25

Because, Islam is probably the most effective method of SOCIAL CONTROL ever developed by humans.

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thesailor • Sep 17, 2017 at 16:19

Islam has to be seen as a tightly-knit collective like an insect colony, that acts in unison as a single organism, all of whose parts exist solely to serve the whole. The colony is the creature, I was told when I took up beekeeping.

Thus the fact that the majority seem passive is quite irrelevant; they still work tirelessly to serve the Islamic collective by various means, and the aim of the collective is the total destruction of all humans who are not a part of itself.

If your children are being terrorised by wasps in the garden you will not achieve much by trying to chase down the individuals that attack them. You must destroy the whole colony, peaceful housekeepers, nurses and all.

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Patricia Canon

thesailor • Sep 18, 2017 at 00:28

Excellent observation. Your analogy really clarified the whole image of Islam, the harmony of the "moderates" and the "extremists", better than any description I have read before.

I also seriously doubt this poll number is true: "But research also points out that 11 percent of Dutch Muslims in the Netherlands are prepared to use violence on behalf of their religion." My guess is that only 11% are willing to admit to it, but that the true number is much higher.

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Lynette

thesailor • Oct 2, 2017 at 22:48

The sailor has said it so well. I take from his/her comment that being passive in the face of the evil of Islam is in essence aiding its continuing power.
I sometimes contemplate what goes on in the Muslim mind. Why do they not feel ashamed of the violence perpetuated by their people? Why do they glory in it? What makes them embrace cruelty and violence so readily? Say for example the cruelty of pouring boiling down the throat of a non-Muslim - it is still a human being doing it so what drives such despicable conduct? Doesn't this mean that every shred of what we call 'humanity' has gone from the Muslim psyche? If that is so then the world may be in much greater peril than we know!

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Norma S. • Sep 17, 2017 at 15:05

Finally, someone who has the courage to state the truth. Islam does NOT meet and goes WAY beyond the definition of "religion". IMO, Islam is a violent, expansionary IDEOLOGY that seeks the subjugation and destruction of ALL other faiths, cultures and systems of government by any means necessary. Non Muslim countries need to declare Islam as an IDEOLOGY and stop the non assimilation of Muslims entering their countries. If that cannot be done....stop Muslims from entering, period. It is time to stop Muslims from having it both ways and colonizing every country that graciously allowed Muslims to enter when Muslims were in harm's way.

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TAREK FARAG • Sep 17, 2017 at 14:37

Confirming that legally Islam is not a religion, it is an ideology, that neither could be protected under the U.S. Constitution.
There is no right for non-USA citizens to come to the USA. It is the opposite, there are regulations to prevent the people that could threaten us or do not respect our constitution from coming to the USA. Mr. Khan fell into a fatal mistake when he lectured us that the US Constitution would not discriminate against the religion of Islam. He ignored to lecture us about the fact that Islam is against all the basic human freedoms. He did not realize that the US Constitution does not recognize Islam as a religion, and guarantees only the NON-VIOLENT practices of the freedoms of religions, expression, and speech. The definition of religion is "The belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods", which does not apply to Islam because Moslems consider Islam a full system to all aspects of life including religion. While the definition of an ideology is "A system of ideas and ideals that are the basis of economical, political, criminal, and civil laws", which matches the teachings of Islam. This shows that Islam is an Ideology, which does not even qualify to the protection of a religion under the USA's constitution. The Islamic ideology does not even qualify for the protection of speech or expression because of its violent teachings, and the constitution guarantees only the peaceful practices of these freedoms . Even if we assume that Islam could be categorized as a religion, the USA's constitution does not give protection to religions just because they are religions. In fact, the constitution stands firmly against any practices that violate our laws.

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Waljay • Sep 17, 2017 at 13:32

The word Re-ligion has a Latin base. It's related to re-ligate or retie. Unfortunately, anything that ties people closely together can serve as a re-ligion. Since radical Islam ties people closely together it qualifies as a religion. That it's thoroughly hellish is beside the point.

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Paul Anderson • Sep 17, 2017 at 10:32

Perhaps it is not too late but it is mighty late for the Netherlands to become concerned about preserving their heritage. The evolution of the Dutch society has been on a fairly fast track since the end of WWII. While I agree with the points and conclusions in this article, I grieve for the Dutch people who are experiencing the results of being open to and adopting almost any of the "freedoms" in life. Now they are faced with having to eat the soup they themselves created. I wish and hope for the best for Geert Wilders but the lemmings in his country have just about all fallen off the cliff.

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william carr • Sep 17, 2017 at 03:27

BTW I forget to add. Islam and religious freedom are (in spite of contrary claims) incompatible. Islam believes fundamentally that it must supersede all other religions. Muslims cannot change or leave Islam on pain of death. Muslims love to claim freedom of religion to further their ambitions but there is no freedom in Islam. Just observe how dissent is treated in most Islamic countries.

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william carr • Sep 17, 2017 at 03:20

Muslims do not integrate. Anybody who cannot see this is blind deaf and dumb, (dumb in the stupid sense) They want separate education so their kids are indoctrinated in Islam, excluding non Muslim subjects and emphasising the separating of the genders. They do not want their young people to mix with non Muslims, and they want to dress so as to emphasise their otherness. How is that integrating? They have no desire to become British, French or Danish etc.

Most of the young people who went to ISIS were born in the countries in which they live. Not loyal to their country but loyal to the umma. The aim of Muslims is to change to change the society in which they live.

As more Muslims enter politics they will influence this trend aided and abetted of course by the leftists.

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Terence Curry

william carr • Sep 20, 2017 at 00:03

Muslims do not integrate because thy are told not to. G-d knows what else they are being told by their Imams. BTW what kind of religion doesn't allow male and female to pray together. Then we have, wherever there is a difference between secular ruling, and sharia. they will as often as possible choose the sharia. Then we have the grooming of young (Non Muslim girls of course) passing them round like pieces of meat. Of course when they get married to their cousins, their women must be virgins. Ours can be treated in any vile way. I don't believe it is only going on in Rotherham, or in England. It's everywhere. They fuel it, and groom the girls with alcohol, and drugs, both forbidden in Islam. So male dominated, it is hard to believe. It all adds up to Islam being at best a cult. It is certainly an abomination. Thought up by a man who in today's terms would be locked up for his own safety as soon as he started hearing celestial voices.
PS. I note that whenever there was a battle, extra blessings were given out to those who defended Mohammed's person. Much better than rewarding them on this Earth He was obviously sex mad. Even the Hadiths mention the number of women he had. BY any test Islam fails to be a religion.

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Geoffrey Dreikman • Sep 17, 2017 at 02:09

Islam, unfortunately, frequents the the "darkness" of religion and will never engage in reasonable dialogue and debate. Islam will never assimilate into the culture and abide by the secular laws of the country it resides in. In conclusion, Islam is a violent, "take no prisoners", Totalitarian, vicious way of life couched in "religion"!! Don't tread on me !!

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David • Sep 17, 2017 at 00:15

Surely it is time to consider the various legal /religious/immigration
rules and regulations used by Singapore to limit the
muslim minority to a stable 15% over the last few decades

For example

a)large scale immigration of muslims is not allowed

b)very little social welfare payments forparents based on
number of children in family.Large muslim families are
difficult to create and scarce in relative numbers

c)unemployment benefits almost non existent

d)because of (b) and (c) the wealth of the nation
is not diminished...the tax rates are lower and
fanatical muslims cannot rely on state income to pursue
poisonous backward brutal and barbaric ideaology

The threat to the continued existence of western style
civilisation is nullified and the right to freely practise Buddhism
Hinduism Christianity is maintained

e)It is forbidden for a muslim male to marry a non muslim
A non muslim female must convert to islam before the marriage takes place

Certainly the above procedures do restrict personal freedoms but they are
a small price to pay for overwhelming future benefits

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Laurie Dinerstein-Kurs • Sep 17, 2017 at 00:13

I have been a loyal follower of Mr. Wilders for years. What is incomprehensible to me is that so many people are suffering from a serious condition of brain freeze - so many people who either are so embedded in the socially accepted idea of being PC...that they let common sense be ignored OR must really believe that Islam's teachings will mellow and encourage followers to integrate.

Do these people EVER listen to the IMAM's who publicly preach sharia law is supreme? Do they not know that sharia law opposes democracy? A country within a country is about what they want. One has to wonder...if they love sharia and their culture SOO much...why did they leave their country in the first place??? IF they emigrated to find a better life...how will it be better if they maintain the status quo??

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Brian O'Reilly

Laurie Dinerstein-Kurs • Sep 18, 2017 at 04:37

Hi Laurie,
There is such a thing as "civilisation jihad" or "Hijra". Muslims emigrate to Western countries to CHANGE those countries to Islam. Dr. Andrew Biezad is an expert on all things Islamic and is even fluent in the ancient form of the Arabic language so cannot be fooled by Muslim apologists. He explains Hijra very well here in this article:
https://onepeterfive.com/the-final-hijra-a-warning-on-the-refugee-crisis/

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Deportem • Sep 16, 2017 at 23:47

May God bless you Mr. Wilders for your moral courage to speak the truth this organized Mafia crime syndicate that uses religion as a front. To endure the hardships of having to live in safe houses is testimony to your commitment to freedom and love of country. I pray that you have by faith accepted Christ as your savior and come to realize that Islam is a pagan system of rebellion against the God of heaven, and that the persecutions we endure are part of a larger spiritual warfare. Cosmos Diabolicus is the world system that we were all born into. But the good news is that He (the Holy Spirit) who is within us is greater than he (Satan) that is in the world. 1 John 4:4

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Elizabeth Lawson • Sep 16, 2017 at 22:24

Geert Wilders has presented the problem faced by many countries with huge numbers of Muslim refugees in a straightforward and practical way. Like the Dutch, all Western cultures wish to do two things - which are utterly incompatible. We want our kindness, compassion and helpfulness to be the cornerstone of our reception to these newcomers from lands with decidedly undemocratic cultures. Equally, we want to protect and preserve what we know to be freedom and democracy, and a vastly superior culture to that which our newcomers ran from. Geert Wilders is the prophet of the future, because he presents the intractability of this matter; Muslims want Muslim culture and all that Islam obtains; we in the West who enjoy what our Judeo-Christian roots gave us, want to retain ALL that we have been historically accustomed to. To some, this presents as a Gordian knot - but it doesn't have to be. I would bet that many Middle Eastern citizens currently residing in Europe, have never had better housing, food, health care, education, legal assistance and so on. Their countries of origin - which they ran from ( war or not) had a tradition of not providing these basics for their people. This in part is why wealthy European countries were targeted by refugees and illegal immigrants - it does not explain why EU politicians did not insist that these huge numbers were not forced to remain in the first safe country that they reached. A reasonable solution to the dilemma between the needs of Islamic and EU citizens, would be to ask the former to either practice their beliefs behind closed doors - or, renounce the harsh and primitive dictates of their ideology, or simply, go back to an Islamic country where they would feel comfortable. It seems to me that many of these newcomers would be very reluctant indeed to leave an environment which expended so much cash and care on them. Perhaps this is one avenue that EU authorities could change. We know that if we do not work for our living, things can get pretty grim. Perhaps immigrants need to be introduced to this idea, and to the reality that the money that they receive comes from workers taxes. The time to address this matter is now, and it is urgently now. Politicians who embraced this grand plan ( and clearly out of utter ignorance and carelessness) need to be removed from office immediately. The Dutch people are not alone in attempting to solve what has become an existential issue. The time to act is now.

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Alexander Gofen • Sep 16, 2017 at 22:19

Mr. Geert Wilders gave a prominent interview showing that he is perhaps the only Western leader fully understanding the scope of the disaster looming over the entire West - the self inflicting "replacement migration", the replacement of the hosts by islamic enemies invited by the suicidal hosts. Surely Mr. Wilders is very cautious in what he says publicly. A few things which he still evades are...

1) An idea of massive migration of ANY kind of foreigners into a nation is treason, the beginning of self liquidation. Nations are presumed to cherish their national identity (which includes the ethnicity, race, languages, culture): to cherish and preserve for the posterity.

Even if migrants were very similar to the host, could it be ever allowed a massive migration of say French into the Netherlands?! Could it be allowed massive migration of very dissimilar (though quite benign) say Hindus or Japanese into the Netherlands?! Now wait a second: islam is malign and antithetic to everything the West holds dear! How could islam (of all!) get a free pass?! (A hint: the plans of Eurabia and of the "Replacement migration" by the UN).

2) There is no need even to speculate whether islam is a religion. Say the paganism of Aztecs or Incas was a religion: a religion practiced with massive brutal human sacrifices. Does the fact of it being a religion make it "protected" by the Constitution of Netherlands for practicing in the land?

The first line of defence for the Netherlands, America, and every Western nation is ACKNOWLEDGMENT OF OWN NATIONAL IDENTITY as a Christian or Judeo-Christian nation. It is this identity (intended to be cherished and passed to the posterity) which excludes islam (and any foreign even benign faith) from acceptance, much less from spread in the host nations.

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Mark Matthias • Sep 16, 2017 at 21:33

"In My Opinion, Islam Is Not a Religion".
Of course not -- it's an ideology that was copied directly from Judeo-Christianity, editorialized
to the extent that is was a rewrite of the Bible, with a completely
different theme. I was told by a Muslim that Jesus and Moses were Muslims.
I was also told, with anger in his voice, that Ishmael, not Isaac was the chosen child. Islam in this respect
is the same as all the other "religions" which have used the Bible as pivot point to launch an entirely
contradictory ideology -- that includes several of the major religions of this world, not just Islam. The
that makes Islam unique is murdering people in this late stage in human history.

How do you consult someone who says such things? When Muslims falter in the argument they become
violent -- this makes no sense.
History is rock solid; to change thousands of years of history which is so verifiable and so carefully analysed, with endless reams of documentation and fragments that absolutely support the New Testament. And the Tanakh was so carefully guarded meticulously added to, as the prophets were given inspiration, saying it was all a mistake is such a feeble thing to say. Archeology is one of the Bible's best friends.
To take a few typos, or an "ostensible" contradiction is not good enough of a reason to throw out thousands
of pages of Holy Writ because of comparatively miniscule misunderstandings.
To suggest that God and Allah are one and the same is the height of absurdity, when they wrote two
entirely contradictory bodies of literature. The have a different purpose, a different goal, a different ending.

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Mark Matthias • Sep 21, 2017 at 08:16

"They have a different purpose, a different goal, a different ending."

Viewed through the perspective of the Bible and by God's grace, we are able to see that the prophecies for the end-times are being played out before our very eyes. The solution to all the problems of the world, its purpose, its goal and its ending are all in Holy Writ:

"At the name of Jesus every knee shall bow and every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord."

In the meantime we need to urge everyone to get back to the Bible, the source of our Western heritage and superior culture (a culture very much marred, of course, by the deliberate targeting of Christianity by the liberal Marxism that is sweeping the earth).

The answer is staring us in the face in none other than the Bible! Not just the bits we have been timidly (there are some courageous exceptions) exposed to in recent decades.We need to heed again that God does not only tell the beginning and the middle of the story but he gives us the apocalyptic end! These times that we are in have so many indelible marks of 'endtimes' and 'last days' in their purest sense that we surely need to check out what the good book, whether or not we are convinced believers, actually says. Forgive me for saying it but this is no time to hope for a return to sanity and relative political and social normality, however laudable the prescient comments on this forum may be. As many here acknowledge the cultural Marxists are well in sight of their utopian society together with their strange Islamic bed-fellows. With any crisis any day, we would be right there!

The missing part of the story IMHO is the blindness to the 100% accuracy of Bible prophecy. Before dismissing this, please consider why Bible believing Christians can boldly make such a statement.

The most convincing proof is contained in the prophecies of the birth of our Saviour. All of the prophecies that foretold his incarnation came true! Even if it is argued that some are difficult to accept, the accuracy of their fulfilment is uncanny and unmatched by anything else in history. In human terms it is impossible. Nothing else comes near nor could it. The odds of one man fulfilling just 48 of the over 300 prophecies has been calculated as 1 in 10 to the 157th power!

http://bbfohio.com/oddsofjesusfulfillingjust48of300/

What more proof do we want that the Bible is true and is the only source that gives us the answers that no man is giving? If the prophecies of his first coming are so true, how much more will the over 1500 about his return be proved true?

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Bisley • Sep 16, 2017 at 20:01

Geert Wilders is a wise man, and one of the very few in politics who sees the truth, and isn't afraid to speak it. Islam isn't a religion, but a way of life that specifies nearly everything that anyone must, or must not, do -- and since it proclaims itself as the only way (which must be imposed on the rest of the world, by force if anyone resists), it is incompatible with every other system of religion, government, law, economics, philosophy, etc. If Wilders can get into the position to put his understanding of the problem into action, he will be the savior of his country (and maybe the rest of Europe, if they follow his example).

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UNCLE VLADDI • Sep 16, 2017 at 18:35

Pretending that the global crime-gang called islam is a "race" of poor swarthy animal-people, oppressed by the mentally superior whites, in order to slander everyone who notices it's a crime-gang as a hatefully bigoted "racist" – is to deliberately enable that crime-gang's crimes by hiding and destroying the evidence of same, and thus to be a willing accessory to those crimes. Since islam is a murder-gang, and the penalty for committing and enabling the commission of murder is DEATH, anyone and everyone who calls an opponent of muslims, islam, and their global jihad, a "racist!" should be lawfully put to death.

Everyone who defends islam and muslims endorses crime.
Endorsing crime IS a crime, so those doing it are criminals.

Right in the Qur'an is: the permission to murder Jews and Christians (Surah 9:29), to terrorize all non-Muslims (8:12), to rape young girls (65:4), to enslave people for sex (4:3), to lie about one's true goals (3:54), and the command to make war on all the infidels (9:123) and subjugate the entire world to Allah (9:33).

Are death-threats legal? NO.
Is extortion legal? NO.
Is slavery legal? NO.
Is murder legal? NO.
Is rape legal? NO.

THEN ISLAM IS ILLEGAL!

Rape, slavery, robbery, extortion and murder are never OK!

Everything muslims pretend to see as "holy" is already a crime!

So nobody has a legal right to practice islam anywhere on earth!

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richard creed • Sep 16, 2017 at 18:12

One of our Founding Fathers, Sam Adams, had the right idea about this situation: When Religion becomes subversive of the Civil Government, then it is no longer entitled to be considered a religion - and would lose the protection granted religion.

Islam, by it's own fundamental principles, is subversive of Civil Government.

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Roydenoral • Sep 16, 2017 at 17:43

Dear Mr. Wilders, most excellent information. I agree with you completely. It seems completely improbable that Muslims will ever assimilate to Western culture because they live in the 7th century. I have yet to read of any place on the planet where Muslims have assimilated. Have been following the Muslim invasion of Western Europe for years, many writers say it is too late to turn around. I pray this is not true. Was surprised to read that your newspaper printed polls negative to Islam and that one of your politicians was critical of Islam. I thought this was not allowed in your country. Anyway, I had some thoughts about a few questions you were asked. You were asked that a Muslim who was born in the Netherlands was Dutch and could say what the Netherlands should look like. Wrong! Individual towns/cities have the right to say what they will look like. For example in Charleston, South Carolina there are very strict codes that houses, buildings, etc must maintain their historic appearance. Even when the property is sold, new owners cannot change the appearance. This is just one example. You were also asked about taking in "war refugees". I am really sick and tired of this. When will Europe start demanding the Muslim countries take in these "war refugees". I do not personally know any Muslims, but I have yet to speak to anyone who does that says they are nice people. It is also a concern that we do not hear any Muslim leaders condemning these horrible terrorist attacks. Well, stay safe Mr. Wilders. You are a great Patriot!

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Michael Waugh • Sep 16, 2017 at 17:28

It was such a pity for Europe and Holland in particular that Geert Wilders did not get a greater political following. I have watched his film many times as a warning about the invasion of civilised countries by the islamics from the East and immigration on a grand scale. Merkel and Macron are of courese no use to anyone and given the chance they destroy their respective countries. Macron was described as psychotic by a professional. Merkel is insulated from the incoming criminal because she is safe as a politician. I hope all this is a lesson to the UK, but I doubt it. Just look at Sweden !

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Gy • Sep 16, 2017 at 16:42

This whole immigration issue begs the question of why these Muslims don't immigrate to Muslim countries? They have no intention of integrating, so what is their true intention? Who in the political classes will answer this question? Absolutely no one.

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Edward Cline • Sep 16, 2017 at 15:37

An excellent, all-encompassing interview and Q & A of one of my heroes, Wilders. It was especially helpful that he elaborated on many of his past statements, correcting and refuting the slanderous accusations made against him. In any basketball game of ideas, I'd want him on my team. He is physically tall and tall in intellect and in moral courage.

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Jeff Page • Sep 16, 2017 at 15:13

Geert Wilders is correct, in reality, we cannot consider Islam to be anything close to being a religion. What religion in the West, states that you are an apostate for not wanting to believe in a thing you have never seen, and want to leave. What religion compels its followers to murder if their "prophet" is insulted in any way? It's only words, they at times only hurt the guilty!

Why does it have to be forced upon people to convert to Islam, no other religion compels people to convert or die. What other "religion" allows the marriage of young under age girls? Why are women the "property" of their husbands? Why don't Muslims assimilate and integrate? Why on earth do such people consider themselves superior to all others and that Islam must rule the world?

People with courage, such as Geert Wilders know. He is under 24hr protection simply because he chooses to speak out against Islam. If this "religion" is so peaceful, then why are Muslims so insecure that they feel the need to use threats and violence to silence their critics?

Then we have the excuses used for some of the women to cover themselves fully in Black with just a slit for the eyes, where does religion play its part in that? The covering up whether head to foot or simply head covering is a manmade rule. And with it being the 21st century where most civilised countries with a few exceptions allow just one wife, why do Western governments allow Muslims to commit bigamy, but consider it a crime, if any indigenous person is guilty of it? Although I don't think that Holland will ever become Muslim free, like many other Western countries there has to be laws passed against some practices carried out by Muslims, and they need to be strictly enforced. It is for Islam and all parts of the culture and belief system to change depending on where they are in the world, and not for others to change for Islam. Sharia is practised in many Muslim countries, if Muslims cannot live within our rules and laws then they should leave for one of those Muslim countries. They seem to think that one day they will rule and Sharia will be implemented, and that isn't going to happen. People have had enough of Muslims already and many are not prepared to put up with much more of their nonsense!

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BARRY Simon • Sep 16, 2017 at 15:11

It seems to me that followers of Islam see the
Opportunity to spread their beliefs to the West
Something they have wanted for centuries.
When Muslims began arriving in Western
nations, we Westerners expected them to
become like us but that hasn't happened and
that won't change. Wake up and see
what's happening to your country ! The time
has come to discourage Muslims from
immigrating to West. Local Muslim leaders should
work harder to improve the economy and
living conditions so that people will want to
stay in their country in Africa or Asia.

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Dorothy Davies • Sep 16, 2017 at 14:39

Regarding the banning of Islam, I think that we in the west have every right to ban a totalitarian ideology which denies freedom to other religions. Look at Saudi Arabia - no churches allowed there, no Bibles. Also Iran where Christians are considered enemies of the State and jailed. Neither of these countries have taken pity on the "refugees" and taken them in - oh, and they do not appear to have tried to go there either! So we should certainly not allow people to live in our countries who do not subscribe to our laws as they are undermining them constantly. I think Islamic dress should be banned and that all mosques built with Saudi money should be pulled down. That would be a beginning.

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stevenl • Sep 16, 2017 at 14:27

Socialism, Nazism and Communism are more or less 100 years old! All three are one way or another closely related to Marx, Engel, Lenin, Stalin etc. They are still kicking under one name or another. They all use PC, a creation of the USSR, that acts like a slow virus weapon of war. This PC results in the robotization of the human mind and its submission to one ideology controlled by a few. Islamism is 13 times older and spreading while under the control of one dead man, Muhammad!

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Leo Francisco Braun • Sep 16, 2017 at 14:15

Geert Wilders is absolutely right !!!!

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tiki • Sep 16, 2017 at 14:06

Had Mohammed lived today, he would have to stand trial at the ICC for atrocities & war crimes against humanity or by the police for pedophilia.

This aggressive warlord was responsible for the Jewish/Christian Middle East changing into an Islamic Caliphate.

His fanatic followers have the same plans for the West.

Geert Wilders has proven to be right with every word he uttered and that's why he's hated. He read & understands the Koran.

People hate those who speak the truth for then they need to take responsibility and fight and it's so much easier to bury ones head in the sand.

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Paul Hilton • Sep 16, 2017 at 13:04

I would like to share this article but I would probably be persecuted by snowflake liberals are promised harm or death by the " tolerant" and "peaceful" Muslims.

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Brian O'Reilly • Sep 16, 2017 at 12:52

Gert Wilders is a hero in my mind. After researching Islam from many sources, including St John of Damascus (Islam was Satanic according to him) I have concluded that essentially Islam is a murderous, supremacist, totalitarian ideology with a veneer of religion founded by the mass torturer, mass murderer, mass rapist, pedophile and slave owner Muhammad that all Muslims have as a role model. Former Muslim Ibn Warraq places Islam on "trial" in his excellent exposé here:
http://ibnwarraq.com/reasons-for-leaving-islam-islam-on-trial/

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Michael Rothschild • Sep 16, 2017 at 12:51

I share the concern Geert Wilders has regarding the integration of Islam but I don't think the problem is that of the definition of Islam as a religion.

No free country has a total freedom of religion and the Netherlands is no exception.
All Abrahamic religions command their believers to kill homosexuals and adulterers.
Would anyone in his sane mind allow these types of murder as part of the freedom of religion?

Total freedom of religion is incompatible with democracy and when people in a democracy talk about "freedom" of religion they always mean "freedom – up to the point of interference with the lives of others".

This is why a constitution that requires freedom of religion should not be interpreted as allowing just any religious practice.

Christians and Jews generally understand these limitations, accept them and, as a result, obey the law.

Not so for Muslims. Many of them consider the laws of religion superior to those of the country.

This is the problem we are facing and the following link points to a text describing my suggestion about the way this problem should be dealt with.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/16CaQyIQgvxVB_nk00M63idQdhYCi_SjQKRMJF2OMsKo/edit?usp=sharing

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peter fieldman • Sep 16, 2017 at 12:35

We currently have two enemies. The first is obviously radical islamists bent on destroying the west through violence, for the moment a minority of individuals. The second poses a greater threat through peaceful means. It is the millions of peaceful muslims living in or wanting to come to Europe. Muslims are not European, but originating from Africa, Middle East or Asia with totally different cultures. The religion dominates their lives and prevents them from joining western society and integrating leading to segregated ghettos in many of Europe's cities. Profiting from our secular ways they have persuaded naive western governments to allow them to build mosques, madrasa schools and introduce the sharia laws forgetting that islam is considered to be above the laws of the state. This makes cohabitation in our democracies impossible. The EU needs to introduce radical new laws which outlaw the sharia law, madrasa schools run by salafists, the subjugation of women through their attire, segregation of sexes, prayers in public etc etc. They must understand that religion is a private matter and not to be flaunted in public. Those who do not or cannot accept our way of life should choose to live elsewhere. The future of Europe's judeo/christian societies is at risk unless we act now.

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Albert Reingewirtz • Sep 16, 2017 at 10:44

Everybody should read what they are capable to read. I too had to stop half way through the text. But this was enough to convince me that Geert Wilder is right.

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