European Court Orders EU Countries to Take Migrants

The EU promotes a dream that has morphed into a nightmare!

When is the EU going to wake up and discover that these people are not refugees, not asylum seekers as if the are - from what exactly? No these people are the riff raff from poor countries who have watched television reels of the prosperity of Europe and have decided to have a part of it. They have seen how others have made the journey safely so it's simply a matter of "let's go bro". Angela Merkel is the biggest clown in the whole circus.

A further thought - Many commenters are clearly aware of the facts - the EU dictating the imposition of hundreds of thousands of Muslim immigrants into its member countries - with the complicity (if not connivance) of mainly Germany and France, who have long had "a special relationship" with Muslims, but few consider broaching the question directly to our leaders and individual members of Parliament, pointing directly to every poll showing the indigenous majority's opposition to this policy. Wouldn't it be a useful exercise if thousands did this, vowing not to vote for them unless they made a stand against further immigration? Clearly, where you have a Muslim MP, this is not going to get very far but at this point in time, they are in a distinct minority. Give it time, and that will no longer be the case and it will be too late.

...and to think that there are still "Remanians" in Britain who hope to reverse the Brexit decision...!

How will these people react to the EU's Court inflicting on their country, the UK, hundreds of thousands of "asylum seekers", whose only dubious 'contribution' to society will be "diversity"?

In all other respects, the migrants are "takers", as is evidenced by the EU countries for which they display a clear preference.
If someone had predicted this scenario ten years ago, say, in a novel, they would have been branded as barking mad...
Who could have imagined, twenty years ago, a headline like: "Cartoon Crisis" or "Home-grown Jihadist"...?

Brexit came just in time for Mud Island - and the EU's throwing its weight around; and threats of legal action against "unwilling" member states, will very likely be the spark which sets off the European Civil War of Independence.
Perhaps this will save Europe from itself; and from the Idiocracy of Merkels of this world

Because these people are not genuine refugees there should be no compulsion for Poland, Hungary etc, to take them in. The ruling applies to refugees yet these people cross multiple safe borders seeking the best welfare deals.

Nothing is being done by stealth anymore. The EU does not hide the fact that they pay absolutely no attention the elected governments. Europe is now ruled from Germany. What Hitler couldn't do with tanks and troops Merkel has done with money.

The argument between a state which is an EU member, and the court ruling comes down to two alternatives:

The first alternative is obviously a state's voluntary surrender of its own sovereignty. The Court ruling must be based upon a state's former sovereignty being gone, surrendered, for the status of any particular state being entirely obligated to cede to the union organization that state's sovereign power in order for the EU to regulate immigration without consulting with a state the nature of that immigration, immigrants,number of immigrants, or how often EU immigration can be repeated. There must have been such a ruling from the very beginning of the EU process. As can be now understood, to surrender a state's own borders and sovereignty is not a matter to be taken lightly.

Explained properly at the inception of such an EU policy, it would be a huge difference maker! To have casually accepted such an immigration demand is now understood to be an ominous and strife-ridden future for any civil, democratic, state with Christian values.

This issue is one of the prices to be paid for membership in such an organization which intends to exercise its willful control over its membership, with almost no recourse for a member state, except to do what Central European states have stood for defiantly. UK seeks to extricate itself from the confusion and criminality now existing in the EU. To UK, I wish a nation-saving result.I see one problem with a single nation declaring to exit....more nations should gather the courage to do the same as Britain. The rest of the EU nations which do understand what is happening and where it will lead should do more than complain to the EU in Brussels, they can see where that leads. The EU is well aware of the conditions, but would rather deny reality than to admit a gross mistake has been made since each member state surrendered sovereignty in order to subscribe what can now be described as a "Trojan Horse."

If states give up their fight, they will become duplications of Sweden, Germany, or France, for examples. Who ever thought of the idea that independent states cannot regulate their own immigration policies?

Well, I'll tell you what type of states become hostage to an EU court order...States which have surrendered their own free will to govern themselves! The issue may become uglier from the EU central source in order to break each state's will. At that point, the strong will be separated from the weak. I hope each state will be stronger for its own sake.

The great irony of European civilization, is that it succeeded in conquering all 7 continents of this globe but never managed to master its own fate and destiny on the European continent.

European civilization was the first global civilization to be created on this globe. During a time span of 500 years, the Europeans managed to create a global Eurocentric civilization, which the ancient civilzations never managed to accomplish during thousands of years of their own existence.

Wars, internal divisions, and internal conflicts amongst the Europeans have raged for more than 1000 years. The conflicts still go on as we speak, although they have moved away from the bloody swords, axes and spears of medieval times, and dust, mud and motor oil soaked guns, rifles, tanks and bombers of modern times, to the "civilzed" settings of parliaments and courts of our own time, but the conflicts of Europe still rage on as we speak.

Another great irony of the collective European civilization, is that it once controlled North and South America, almost all of Black Africa, North Africa and the Middle East, India, South East Asia, Australia and New Zealand. Now, it seems that external non-European forces are shaping Europe's destiny - Russia & Putin, the Arab and Moslem world, immigration from North Africa and Middle East, and a change of attitudes (fortunately I might add) in Donald Trump's America.

Now it seems that European civilization as such is imploding on its own continent. Sub replacement fertility rates, disarmament, high unemployment rates across Europe, limited and sometimes non existent GDP growth, increased Arabization and Islamization of Europe, post-nationalism, pacifism, moral relativism, defeatism, general collective indifference to the future fate of Europe etc.

It seems that the plague that threatens to bring down European civilization, is not so much what goes on in the external physical world, but rather it's a fallacy and delusion of the mind.

Ultimately, it's the collective European mindset, the collective European psyche, that brings down European civilization, and at the forefront of Europe's current suicidal tendencies, is the European Union and the European Court of Justice (ECJ).

The EU is a disaster. Liberal fascism in action. Look at what happened in the Balkans where entire sections of countries were torn away and became Islamic states. Aided and abetted by the US, sadly.

How can the ECJ be considered an impartial body when it comes to issues concerning the furtherance of EU interests? Is it likely they would make a judgement that was contrary to the policies and aims of the dominant members? What do they know or care about the democratic wishes of the European electorate?

The situation where such a body - not representing the interests of any one (or indeed several) member countries - has the power to make decisions in complete contradiction and violation of the interests of the indigenous populations of Europe, reveals the totally undemocratic and idiotic nature of the whole construction.

High time for all right-thinking countries to leave the EUSSR tyranny ASAP!

When the EU was being formed why didn't they include in it's Constitution, clauses dictating that the EU would do nothing to protect the culture, values, traditions, and ethnicities of the member countries? The answer of course is obvious. All of the countries with no exceptions would have joined. They have created a totalitarian monster which Europe is good at doing.

I have great admiration for Poland and the other two countries refusing to allow their countries to be invaded by people with whom they have absolutely nothing in common. The leader of Hungary is absolute correct in putting his people, their needs and identity above all else. I wish all three countries the best of luck in protecting their countries which is their obligstion. I only wish our leaders in the USA were as strong in refusing and repelling invading foreigners!!

The E. U. seems to be writing the rules for all countries ? ? ?
This is the main reason why the E. U. should be disbanded. Good on the U. K. for their decision. Crime alone quadrupled, what other risks do we need to import ?

So these migrants are supposedly "escaping war situations" in their own countries. One would think they would be relieved to be in any European country. But no, they want the countries that will give them the most welfare. Doesn't sound like the workforce, doctors, engineers, etc that Merkel promised. And what if the Eastern/Central European countries continue to refuse to accept these invaders? Will the EU invade them? With what? If the EU fines them, do not pay it. Pull your funds out of EU banks. Stay strong and prayers from America.

It's great to see strong leaders who love their country. Too bad there are so few of them. Most world leaders appear to be a bunch of globalist toadies.

This ruling may be a good thing, if it forces a confrontation between these East-European countries and the EU. If they are shown plainly that they can't maintain the sovereignty of their countries while remaining subject to the EU's laws, courts, commissions, etc., maybe some will defy the EU, and dare it to expel them, or decide to leave. The EU is a threat to the freedom, prosperity, culture, and sovereignty of every member state, and Europe as a whole. If it isn't broken before it consolidates its power over the member states, it will become the West-European equivalent of the USSR, and every bit as tyrannical and oppressive.

If there would only be more comments on here, than 41! But as it is, all of them are wonderful, and caring, of these countries, that are standing up on their own, and not letting this evil, satanic, EU, dictate, what they "have to" do!
I pray these countries, that are NOT letting the EU make these demands on them, stand strong! We stand with YOU!

Misery loves company. Western Europe, through the blind idiocy of its corrupt and brain-dead political leadership, having become infected with the fatal curse of rabid Islamic Jihadism, wants to infect Eastern Europe with the same curse.

So, the "The European Court of THUGStice" will enact major financial penalties against the Central and Eastern Europeans for not accepting their fair share of the "mus-ery" of the migrants? The financial institutions, businesses, governments, and probably any individuals who live in the countries with leaders with a brain, should immediately withdraw/sell all funds, bank deposits, and investments from Germany, France, et al.

Alas, it seems that Eastern European countries that are so reticent about admitting people of a totally different background (to put it extremely mildly!) derive many benefits from the membership in this supranational organization.

These countries nevertheless (with Spain, Portugal, Malta and Cyprus perhaps?) should veto anti-democratic decisions that are against their interests and push for a reform of the EU. Economic co-operation yes, a political union that could become the Fourth Reich or a dhimmi federation of states? A big NO!

It is now very clear that National Laws do not apply whilst in EU also that the EU does not respect democracy. The Countries who do not want to accept the illegal immigrants must start playing by the same rules as the undemocratic EU. I would dearly love to give Jean Claude Junker a bloody nose for all the harm he has caused.

The destruction of the nation states of Europe, in other words the Kalergi plan. Peter Sutherland made it quiet clear when he stated, we will utilise mass migration and multicultaralism to destroy the Nation states of Europe, because if we do not destroy them we will never be able to politically control them. He also stated, the European union should act aggresively to destroy homogeneity in the Countries of Europe.
This is all part of the plan by the globalist to bring in their New World order. After this ruling by these traitors in the ECJ can there be any doubt that these unelected Commissioners and judges are working for people other than the people of Europe. It would give me the greatest pleasure to see these traitors stand trial in the not to distant future and recieve their just rewards at the business end of a hemp rope. Their treasonous actions deserve no less.

Hungary and Poland remember the Nazi death camps and the German boot on the necks of the countries overrun by the Blitzkrieg. Germany is propelling yet another invasion by an old enemy that threatened Europe for hundreds of years, namely the Islamists. If you travel down the Danube, you will see the fortresses used to fight the hordes. Hungary, Slovakia, and Poland should consider Brexit.

What exists in Europe are a collection of democratic nations which, on their own stupid volition, thought they could advance possibilities by joining a "Union." That "Union" is just a larger version of labor unions which offer beneficial results, but misrepresent the results which become huge negatives as the realities spill forth of importing, not only a people, but a culture which poisons the entire EU atmosphere and will do so permanently. What deters Europeans from refusing the EU council's demands? Have Europeans surrendered life to the degree that they are helpless to resist what we know has already been proved? Is the UK to be the lone survivor if it can hurry its "Brexit?"
And, what of the rest? Are they waiting to be saved by a miracle? I doubt that, they have stopped believing. Will future school children be taught that European history ended in year 2017?
All that will exist are court decisions by a group in Brussels...how sad!

Is the EU also bought and paid for? Money can buy a lot of things or sway a lot of opinions.

What started as a "Common Market" has become a monster of Frankenstein. Hungary, Poland, The Czech Republic and Slovakia should reconsider their EU membership and perhaps follow Britain's example.

Although the German chancellor Merkel has now admitted she made a mistake opening the floodgates, not a single finger has been lifted to stop or even slow down the flow of immigrants to Europe.

This is the failure point of the EU. No voting. One chamber is "elected." The average uninformed working people have unelected pontiffs deciding for them. This is why Britain left and chose not to participate.

It is exasperating reading about the wreckage that the Great Panjandrums in Brussels are making of European countries. I wonder, in the early days, when the architects of this power bid presented their anemic version of what now exists - a plan to " facilitate free trade" did anyone even guess that what is now reality would be even close to their mental musings about the outcome of this proposal? In view of the journey to total control that those in Brussels actually (and secretly) planned in the past, who can guess what life in EU countries will be like when total and complete control is exerted by these power hungry politicos? As it stands, EU countries no longer enjoy rights which they have had for centuries; they have lost control of their nation states. Do any of these EU countries know what the ultimate goals of Brussels are in the making of this great federation? My advice to all EU countries is to instigate popular resistance to this high handed bid for the removal of their power to Brussels. EU citizens should have the right to vote on the future of their respective countries - before they become Africanized/ or Muslimized. Demands made by unelected bureaucrats in Brussels have already led to chaos and tragedy on European streets everywhere. Enough!

In recent years we have seen that multinational governmental organizations are not yet capable of making better decisions than individual national governments. Perhaps we should all remember that, whether at the multinational or national level, power tends to corrupt. Give the EU Commission a lot of power, and it will lead to poor decision-making. Imposing numbers of immigrants on member nations is a bad decision.

Dear Sir
The judgment of the 28 wise men (and women) of Luxembourg could have a far-reaching effect on the future of the EU and our democracies and raises two vital questions:

1: Should the EU Court of Justice override the laws of elected governments of sovereign states?

2: Should 28 people decide on the future of a continent ignoring the views or wishes of its 500 million citizens.

Interpreting laws always leads to conflicting arguments. In this case there is a need to define what is a "refugee" and an "asylum seeker." Without clear guide lines on these points there is no way to ascertain whether a migrant is escaping persecution or war or merely seeking a better life. Who decides?

The population of Africa and Asia, the poorest continents, exceeds three billion people, who are connected and prepared to risk their lives to reach Europe. The EU judgement will not stop or reduce illegal migration. Instead it is an open invitation to illegal migrants and the trafficking gangs who know that demands for asylum can drag on for years and even if rejected, rarely lead to deportation.

We have to acknowledge that Democracy as we know it does not apply to many parts of the world with corrupt or despotic regimes. It is simply unfeasible for Europe to be expected to provide a new home for millions of people of different cultures and religion from other continents. If EU member States accept this judgement, within two or three generations it will result in the transformation of European culture, freedom and way of life.

Yours

Peter Fieldman
Author of "The World at a Crossroads" published by Austin Macauley London
Blog:www.peterfieldman.com

The Polish people and others should have their referendum as did the UK and leave the dictatorial EU and take back their 'sovereignty'. Getting out will be hell, but the alternative is far, far worse: Sharia.

Europe's policy is insane. If I were in charge of Hungary, Poland etc. I'd risk war over this regardless of consequences.

I hope the Eastern European countries will stick to their guns and not allow themselves to be bullied by the likes of Merkel. If the German people have any sense they will soon vote her out of office. Europe is doomed and is about to break up. The dying dragon is lashing out with its tail.

It astonishing that Europeans are committing cultural and demographic suicide! I keep thinking or when is enough, when?

With the Islamization of Europe moving forwards in full force, I have only one advice for all remaining Jews --- LEAVE EUROPE NOW --- DO NOT WAIT ANY LONGER!!! I know that I repeat myself, but this is CRUCIAL. Again, leave Europe now, before it is too late. The last thing we need is another Holocaust. Thank you Gatestone.

The blind, fanatical, one-sided, one-eyed, arbitrary, and utterly unreasonable, unrelenting and undemocratic behavior of the political elite of Western Europe never fails to amaze me.

Everything is fine as long as Western Europe dictates to Eastern Europe what to do, and Eastern Europe just tags along and agrees to do what it has been told to do? Yes, very "democratic" and "peaceful" indeed.

Does the "elite" of Western Europe fail to understand that opinion polls across Europe - Western and Eastern Europe, clearly and consistenly show, that there is de facto no public or general support for the EU opening its doors to migration from North Africa and the Middle East?

The official purpose of the EU is to promote "peace" and "democracy". The fundamental problem with these statements, is that the current policy making of the EU has very little to do with "peace" and "democracy".

The European Union's "leadership" (or more aptly put - acute lack of leadership) violates the independence and sovereignty of the European countries and ignore the will of the people and the will of the voters. How is this democratic and peaceful?

On top of that the EU wants a parallel European military federal supranational army side by side with NATO forces. If the European Union is supposedly a peace project, why does it need a federal supranational European military force? Is it peaceful to wage war? Wage war against who?

As if this wasn't enough, the European Union obstinately insists on maintaining the very same policy that made scared British voters to vote for Brexit! What exactly is it that the European Union doesn't understand? The more they push the Europeans into sacrificing their national independence and sovereignty, their national identity and their national territorial integrity, the more confrontations and clashes we will see within the European Union.

The "elite" insists on European supranationalism, but will see it fall apart sooner then they think, because ignoring or ridiculing the will of the people, and consistently attacking, questioning, ridiculing, silencing or ignoring the independence and sovereignty of democratically elected national governments, will unavoidably, drive a wedge between European nation states and the proponents of European supranationalism.

If the "elite" had any savvy, cunning and instinctive feel, they would try to make the European nation states happy and satisfied, in order to keep them in the grand master plan of European supranationalism.

Instead, the "elite" has opted for a rather blunt and inane German approach: "my way or no way".

I wouldn't be surprised to see the European Union collapse and fall apart within a couple of years.

Now, just because these folks are presumably lawyers, this does not automatically confirm that they have any common sense.

Obviously, common sense has departed Europe.

This is such a radical decision by the ECJ it clearly could promote a beginning to the break-up of the EU. Why is it that Angela Merkel decided to open the doors and welcome the migrants without any checks and balances but now wants to force all member countries to take a proportion of these unwanted people. The member countries should round up the immigrants and send them back to Germany as the host that opened it's doors in the first place. I have not found any EU directive where member countries agreed to take in the immigrants.

I admire the stand being taken by the Visegrad group and wish them success. Of course the EU will seek to impose heavy penalties to deter other states, swell the coffers and as an incentive to the recalcitrant UK to accept the exit deal offered without " quibbling ". Ironic that the Slovakian PM threatened to " veto any agreement between the EU and Britain " in 2016.

All of Europe should learn from Brexit. The Brits are smart.
Best wishes,
Dr Frank Yeruham Leavitt,
ISRAEL

Let's see Hunexit, Polexit and Czexit soon. The EU is destroying Europe.

The solution to this impasse is in the individual national leaders hands.

They must now offer their citizens a referendum on exiting the EU and taking back their sovereignty, this will send Brussels an unequivocal message.

If Hungary, The Czech Republic Slovakia, and Poland could co-ordinate such referendums as a matter of urgency, and try and run them at the same time, the message to Brussels force these Eurocrats and their Legal henchmen of the European Court of Justice to think again.

All of the bullying from the EU could push these nations into BRICS, still in its infancy now, but a potential juggernaut. Only 20% Muslim by 2030? Sounds like a wishful thinking estimate to me, with their ten kids each and radicalized by twelve years old, that number will seem higher at any rate.
These are nations that were bullied by Soviets for years, yet now their strongest ally may be Russia.

Considering that some EU nations are paying Turkey not to flood Europe with Muslim colonists, one has to wonder what the judges were paid? What, you don't think they can be bought?

Of the 160,000 migrants to be "shared," nine countries in Central and Eastern Europe were ordered to take in around 15,000 migrants. Those arriving have been raised in another religion, and represent a radically different culture. Most of them are Muslims. More than 60 million people are expected to make their way from Africa into Europe during the next 20 years — thereby pushing Europe's Muslim population to above 20% by 2030. "The Islamization of Europe is real."

I pray that the countries that reject this order will hold firm!! EU courts have become an arm of the political madness.

The European Court of Justice has just delivered a ruling that contradicts its title. Following the pattern of all autocracies, it has become the legislative arm of the despotic, unelected EU Commission, proving that the judges who delivered their disgraceful ruling yesterday are not independent lawyers but egregious functionaries of their corrupt political masters. They failed to take into consideration the rights and interests of the states who are bravely resisting the unwanted incursion of Islamic migrants. Instead, they delivered an unwelcome sword-thrust into the already seriously wounded body of Europe. The positive aspect of this ill-judged fiat is that the ordinary citizens of the affected states, plus many more in the countries already swamped by Moslem economic migrants (genuine refugees are very much in the minority), will be all the more determined to resist the authoritarian diktats of the Commission and its myrmidon, the ECJ.

The hailed "Victory" for European federalism is the real loss of Europe.

I call this a Pyrrhic victory!

So Europe is committed to accepting and supporting all of North Africa's population. Damned generous of them.

If they are smart, they will leave the EU.

Having lived in Poland for a number of years, the Poles know from their history what it is like to be forced into anything but especially inflicting foreigners on them.....the Brits must learn from this ruling that you don't have control over your own country....the Germans and French run Europe and watch out who opposes them.....they seem hell bent on making Europe another Muslim state.....a war is coming.

Perhaps the UK should now invite Hungary, Poland and Slovakia (and any other interested members) to join them in leaving the 4th Reich (formerly known as the EU). It would be interesting to test the theory that if a net beneficiary state leaves the EU, they would receive a payment instead of, as in the case of the UK, having to pay a "divorce settlement".

So an authority that was supposed to bring more prosperity and development to Europe is now sanctioning its members for not accepting illegal migrants, migrants that bring with them an ideology that has been at war with Europe for the last 1,400 years.

Sounds like a bad joke except it isn't.

This is what "ever-closer political union" looks like. The EU as a giant boa constrictor "embracing" countries who disagree with the dictate of the majority (=Germany).

Central and Eastern Europe would be better off doing the unthinkable -- breaking from the EU and forming closer relations with Russia, which is only threatening them in the reports of the lying Western propaganda apparatus and not in reality. They currently have far more in common with Russia than with Western Europe. I hope they get out while they can. At some point the EU will use military power to force its will upon member states.

I wonder if this action by the unelected bureaucrats of the EU will penetrate the brains of the other members and make them realise just what sort of organisation they have signed up to. The ECJ has in effect decided that to ease Mrs Merkel's conscience for opening the floodgates, all other members need to help her out and take the weight off of her shoulders! The excuse used is that all EU members must contribute to the immigrant crisis. They must do so without being able to voice their opposition, they must do as they have been instructed!

There are a great many people in Europe who have a death wish and an even greater number of traitors who take money for speaking up for the immigrants.

A great deal of credit must go to the leaders of Hungary, Slovakia, Poland. As the article states, not a word referred to the Dublin Regulation. Was this an oversight or was it a deliberate attempt to disregard it and hope that no one notices. One thing is for sure, this should serve as a warning to the other countries in this elitist club. When it comes down to it, certain members will be protected and others who don't conform to their rules will be castigated and in effect forced to do what the Bureaucrats in Brussels want. This is a direct threat to them as leaders of their countries. The leaders are trying to protect their citizens from the Muslim hordes that will never become a real part of their society and who will in fact, attempt to tear it apart. The real traitors and danger to our security in Europe make the decisions in Brussels. They must be opposed at all costs. This is yet another reason why we in Britain voted to get out of this corrupt organisation!

The dissenting countries can make a point by deliberately seeking and accepting Christian migrants from countries where they are threatened. That will also expose the hypocrisy of the EU. I am sure they will find enough matching people to fill their quotas and this move won't have any negative impact on their cultural cohesion.

In the meantime, the UN does not insist that wealthy Arab Gulf states take in their brothers 'in distress' which has resulted in these same wealthy Gulf states taking in zero ...... that's right, ZERO 'refugees and asylum seekers' from Africa, Southern Asia and the Middle East.
One reason I have read is that the wealthy Gulf states do not want the terrorism many of their citizens have financed in their own countries and the UN does what they tell them by forcing Christian countries to accept them thereby ensuring the takeover of our countries.

I predict a sharp rise in the number of countries leaving the EU.

This is simply tyranny and it must continue to be opposed by the Visegrads. Failure to do so will result in fracture and division.

The EU could be creating conditions that encourage family life across Europe but instead the are determined to divide and rule by breaking all nationhood across the union.

We need to break the EU as a matter of urgency before Europe is destroyed.

to be expected. next move is confiscation.

There is no way that Poland, Hungary and the rest of these countries will accept this dictatorial policy. The EU is just shooting itself in the foot and they are creating another huge mess due to their absurd demands regarding Brexit. Besides, Poland has taken more than a million Ukrainian refugees, from war partly provoked by the EU itself, plus by Soros, Obama, and Clinton. Putin took advantage of the chaos created by these and took Crimea and provoked a civil war in Ukraine which has killed 9000 people. Ukrainians will easily integrate into Poland, if they wish to stay, due to the similarity of race and religion.

The EU really wants to commit political suicide. Or do they want to erase their ethnic identity?

If we Hungarians will have to chose between an Arab, Black and Muslim "Europe" (which only refers to it in a geographical sense), or a White, European, Christian Hungary, then the choice is unanimous.