Palestinians: Israel's Goodwill Gestures Send Wrong Messages

Time for Israel to tell the terrorists that they will be expelled from Israel. No more concessions. No more prisoner releases. the only time they will be released is when they die. The Palestinians think that they will drive the Jews into the sea and take over all Jewish land. That will never happen.

Show those savages that Israel will never capitulate to the Islamic terrorism. Time for the world to wake and note that those savage bastards murder children enjoying a concert, which has nothing to do with Israel. Neither has the savage terrorist murderous attacks in London to do with Israel.
Israel and the rest of the civilized world, must show the savages that terrorism does not pay. Any terrorist caught in the act, must be shot on the spot, as has happened in London.

Pres Trump must not push Israel into handing over any territory to those savages as a goodwill gesture. Time for Trump to move the embassy to Jerusalem and declare ALL OF JERUSALEM, INCLUDING THE OLD CITY, is part of the Jewish capital of the Jewish state of Israel.

Unfortunately, when one reads the anti Semitic writings of Gwynne Dyer, that the Jews are living on land carved out of Arabic land, then that swine causes trouble.

Now, once again, the Sec Gen of UN has told Israel to agree to a PA state on much of Israeli land.

USA must stop funding that Useless Nothing.
Send them out of America.
They have no place in a civilized country.

Yes, time and again conceding anything to the Palestinians has proved a waste of time, a waste of effort and a complete failure.
The Palestinians seem to have some strange ability to make the world feel sorry for them even when they are violent and murderous and when they lie so plainly. Their irrational hatred for Israel makes no sense considering that there is no such country as Palestine and no such people as Palestinians - they are merely Arabs just like the rest of their brethren.

The only time you can expect long term benevolence from Arabs is when you loudly proclaim their inherent superiority while publicly admitting your own inferiority in relation to them.

There is no way to be nice to Arab Muslims without appearing to them to be admitting your weakness.

What does our government not understand about the Palestinian's goal of eradicating Israel then the USA? They make no secret of it! All concessions are invitations to continue what they have been doing since 1947! How stupid can we be?

It is time for Israel and all who love her to take the rose tinted glasses off with regards to the Trump administration, backtrack on moving Embassy and now pressure to cede more land with nothing asked of the Palestinians. Israel is a sovereign state and should be free to make its own decisions based on what's best for Israel and the Jewish people without interference. Administrations may change but the argument remains the same: Israel is the problem " if they only did this or that " everything would be fine, not true.

Does nobody listen to the 'Palestinians'? Yes they want territory, all of it. For them giving back what they think is rightfully theirs anyway is just weakness. They have had large amounts of territory given 'back' to them, even though they only had it by conquest to start with, and what have they done with it? Created vibrant prosperous societies like Israel? No they just use it as a base to mount operations against Jews.

The problem here is simply a difference in world-view. Most people tend to believe that people everywhere have the same general goals and attitudes -- this is not true, and leads to a fundamental misunderstanding of many situations.

Most Israeli politicians, and the west in general, are interested in peace and prosperity, and looking for some formula to achieve a peaceful coexistence with the Arabs, so they can go about their business without the distractions of terrorism and war -- and they are willing to compromise to some degree, and give limited concessions to end the strife.

The Arabs do not have the same goal -- they're not interested in peace, but victory. They seek the supremacy of their religion, culture and race, and to destroy or expel all non-Muslims and non-Arabs from what they see as their lands -- the elimination of Israel. The Arabs know their goal can only be reached through force -- they have no respect for anything but force, and see any concessions made to them as signs of weakness, lack of will, and incremental moves toward surrender.

A negotiated settlement of anything is only possible when both sides have the same general goal -- if they desire similar outcomes, there is probably some set of conditions that can mostly satisfy both parties. There is no settlement possible between Israel and the Arabs, only victory, or defeat. This cannot end until one side totally defeats the other -- either the elimination of Israel, or the complete destruction of the Palestinian terrorist organizations, and some settlement imposed on a defeated people (who know they're defeated, and must accept it).

Israel needs to say enough is enough, they will not release any more terrorists while negotiating, the only steps that will be given will be after the PA makes their own first, Israel will not allow Jerusalem to be on the table, any talk of it will make any negotiations over the second it is brought up.

Mr. Tawil is exactly correct. I have been writing and speaking about this for twenty years. It is apparent that the Arab culture in general interprets any conciliatory action as a sign of weakness to be exploited further. For the most part, the right in Israel has come to realize the truth of this assertion, and is supported by the majority of Israelis.

The other, unmentioned side of this coin, is that Arab governments in general, and the fakestinians in particular, only respond to pain. This is why Trump should have moved the US embassy to Jerusalem this month, even to East Jerusalem, and then said to Abbas: "Okay, you've now lost all hope of ever having any presence in Jerusalem other than as tourists. Get reasonable immediately or ...[fill in the blank here]." There are so many screws that Israel can turn to make the fakestinians' lives miserable that will cause them to become compliant to whatever ultimate resolution Israel finds most desirable. All that's missing is the political will to adopt this strategy, accompanied by the necessary enlightenment of the public about the strategy's derivation from the aforementioned inescapable conclusion about the Arab mentality.

The Arabs in general view any type of concession from the "non-believers" as a sign of weakness and vulnerability to be taken advantage of. The "Art Of The Deal" may work in Donald Trump's world and in the culture of the West but history is not on the side of the "Palestinian" Arabs when it comes to the integrity of negotiation. When the frog sleeps with the scorpion he is going to get stung. Scorpions do what scorpions do.

If anyone should be clear-eyed about the so-called Palestinians and their games, it is the Israelis. I don't think the current concessions are major, and they certainly do not rise to the level of strategic giveaways like the withdrawal from Lebanon, which was less to do with Palestinians than an attempt to win credibility for the struggling Lebanese government.

Anyway, what we have here is a test, one of many through the years, of the so-called Palestinians' response to to peaceful gestures by Israel. Indeed there is a degree of normality in West Bank areas around places like Rammallah and Jenin, and long-closed checkpoints. Where there is commerce there is stability. Are Abbas & Co. serious about this? I've always thought of Abbas as an empty suit.

I shouldn't be too concerned. Israel is wise. The givebacks are trivial. If the Palies run true to form, no biggie, and they'll be shown up, once again, as the phony savages they are.

Instead of the Israeli authorities, they listen to people who do not understand or pretend not to understand how the mind of a Muslim, educated at an early age to hate the Jews, works. Their intention is clear. The total annihilation of the Jewish state, the only democracy, surrounded on all sides by totalitarian states; Which aim only to curtail the rights of its citizens. Israel should, above all, preserve the lives of its citizens and stop following as a child, recommendations emanating from people who lie hundreds of miles away, safely in their comfortable apartments.

It's really a shame that Palestinians understand only force (al harb).

The Arab countries have never taken responsibility for their Arab brothers in the West Bank while Israel has absorbed Jews fleeing Arab lands from North Africa and the Russian caucuses. Jordan is basically funded by the United States and some Arab monies to prop up a false monarchy.
An honest federation of Jordan and the Arabs of the West Bank with the leadership of the present consensus king is the most workable solution.

It is said that "we judge others by our own standards" so we should remember this when looking at the reaction of the Arabs to Israeli goodwill moves. Of course they do not believe in goodwill because they would never practice it themselves, except for deception. You cannot tame a savage animal by holding out your hand to it and speaking gently - the savagery is built in. They have to be subdued by force alone because it's all they understand.
There are many people all over the world who stand up for Israel and support her and I believe the tide of government support is turning in her favour.

What does our government not understand about the Palestinian's goal of eradicating Israel then the USA? They make no secret of it! All concessions are invitations to continue what they have been doing since 1947! How stupid can we be?

I am sincerely hoping that this memo gets past his handlers and right to Donald Trump's desk.

This article should be mandatory reading for EVERYONE in the US government, and maybe more important, for EVERYONE in the Israeli government. Concessions to people like Arafat and Abbas, like Hamas, are viewed as weakness. Those people could not spell "goodwill" if they were spotted the g-o-o-d-w-i-l. Finally, the Israelis should immediately execute every terrorist. Putting them in prison means they are alive and able to be freed as the next government's "goodwill" gesture.

Good will with the Palestinians ends you up with a bullet in the back or a knife in your back. Abbas like all Arab leaders rule with an iron fist. All these left wing Soros + EU funded Jew hating groups are all based in Israel. Not one stays over one night in the Palestinian controlled Areas. The Reason, no movies, no bars with music, no alcohol, no plays, nothing but hate and milking the western countries of their aid money.

I have had business with Muslims and Arabs. Any goodwill on my part is seen as weakness by them. I hope Mr. trump understands this. It is also difficult to take Muslims at their word. Israel must not give one inch to the so-called Palestinians. War is eventual. It cannot be avoided. One state or two, there will be war...and not only between them, but between Islamiyyih and the world!

Honest Reporting has a petition circulating on the web requesting people disprove the Washington Post's support of the Palestinian "cause" and a decidedly anti Israel or Jewish position though Judaism of course is never mentioned. It is pertinent to this article.

As a regular reader of the Washington Post I have to say its coverage of the Israeli Arab crisis presents little information in what appears to be an advocation of the Palestinian cause, which it hasn't noticed is more and more simply a religious extremist cause inciting conquest of Israel through diplomatic means. The 67 boundary is properly a religious boundary set by the PA to impose sharia on Jews and Christians alike. The Kotel will not be accessible or as accessible to Jews who actually practice judaism nor Christians their sites, and they will have to submit to Islamic interpretation from the Koran what their beliefs are all else being punishable under sharia as heresy. And the Temple Mount? It doesn't exist don't you now that?
So the Post's liberal views which claims all religions are the same sic, would reduce the three faiths to an Islamic faith base only. And Islam does not have antecedents in either Judaism or Christianity. It makes casual reference to the other faiths but Islam is not rooted in them but liberals believe all religions are the same? Nonsense.

And that is without mentioning that Palestinian schools are still teaching children Israel does not exist, and Jews should be killed unmercifully and Allah is great. So that 8 year children are sent into the streets by their parents with knives, only one example to "kill the Jews."

I never expect too much from the Washington Post and it never disappoints.

As a Jew and an Israeli I've always felt alone until I started reading Mr. TAWIL. MAY HE bless you and don't let "them" stop you.

Although the West has met Fascism in various shades through the recent history, the current generation in power cannot comprehend the evil today when they are confronted.

The great European misconception lies in the fact that everybody is equal. The globalist liberal utopian eco elitist's ideology says that how "we" are so are all. Meaning that our adversaries are open to dialogue. The Arabs have got the buzz-word and are repeating it day and night. Thus the naïve liberal elitists take in the repetitive call for dialogue.

An analysis that is spot on identifying the failure of successive Israeli governments from Rabin/Peres onward to Netanyahu to recognize what is going on. It appears the Jewish "head" once it leaves the Diaspora to return to Israel takes a 180 degree turn and becomes foolish, blind, deaf and dumb and subservient to external pressure.

It is time Netanyahu and Rivlin (yes he is a political animal) stopped talking as if more concessions will bring peace.

Many in Gaza would have peace if they knew what it contained. The word taught is that Israel has no reason for existence. They occupy lands rightfully theirs. A claim held by both sides for centuries. The pressure to give the Palestinians space has been offered many times. Always accepted. Never has the peace that was promised been granted. Is it the men with no honor or a god that teaches honor to the men? we see their civilization fester with people who honor a book more than their women.
Grampa

It is time for Israel to say --- enough is enough --- Israel is a Jewish country, always was a Jewish country --- since ancient times, and like it or not, IT WILL ALWAYS REMAIN A JEWISH COUNRY, GOD WILLING!!! As for the Muslims, they have plenty of countries of their own --- neglected as usual. Go back there and leave the Jews alone. A person does not need much imagination to know what these Muslim's countries will look like but they are their countries and their problem and their mess. Israel's "disengagement" from the Gaza Strip was a foolish thing to do. Israel's generosity gained the Jews nothing but pain and trouble. Thank you Bassam Tawil and Gatestone.

"In fact, Palestinians read Israeli goodwill steps as signs of weakness and retreat."

That right there, is classic Arab culture.

Nothing and no amount of appeasement as applied by the majority of European leaders will ever change the mindset and goal of Muslims under any circumstances!

It's something that they had better get their heads around quickly. The very fact that many European countries have admitted Muslims into their societies will make little if any difference to what the Muslims want to achieve. The continuing confrontation with Israel is something that will never change in an eternity. The Muslims have one train of thought and just one goal, total domination of Islam across the world. They are currently being aided and abetted by the leaders in Europe and will achieve what they want within a few decades. The European leaders have been willing participants in the downfall and take over of their own countries and even today after all the Europeans that have died in terrorist attacks are still stating to their fellow countrymen, (those they have betrayed) that Islam is a "religion of peace". You either believe that or take it with a pinch of salt!

One thing is, without any doubt, the Muslims have their own agenda and are doing a magnificent job of fooling the ignorant self-serving European political classes. Many of whom are speeding up the process of allowing them to take control.