The False Premise of Palestine and Peace

"How does one 'compromise' with declared assassins and robbers?

Agree to let them only half-kill you? To kill "only" half of your family?

Allow them to only steal half your stuff (today, and half again tomorrow)?

When is enough suicidally masochistic appeasement enough, to these liberals?

What part of 7:167. And (remember) when your Lord declared that He would certainly keep on sending against them (i.e. the Jews), till the Day of Resurrection, those who would afflict them with a humiliating torment. Verily, your Lord is Quick in Retribution (for the disobedient, wicked) and certainly He is Oft­Forgiving, Most Merciful (for the obedient and those who beg Allâh's Forgiveness). Do you not comprehend??? Perhaps Tafsir Ibn Kathir will clear it up for you.
http://www.islam-universe.com/tafsir//7.18998.html

Who will he send? What will they do??

What part of this prophesy do you not comprehend?
Sahih Muslim Book 041, Number 6985:
Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: The last hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him; but the tree Gharqad would not say, for it is the tree of the Jews.

Muslims will attack Jews until and during Qiyama. The gates of Jannah will not swing open for them until they murder the last Jew.

Israel needs to recognize objective factual reality and rise up as one exhibiting the impudent digit of contumacious defiance to Islam, the EU and the United Nazis. #NoConcessions! #NoNegotiation! #NoAppeasement!

What gives this Arabs, who, for 100 years tried everything to destroy Israel in any way and mean possible, the RIGHT to ask for a state in the living room of Israel? Will France establish a state for the 10 million Moslems in her midst just outside Paris, where they camp? France is cleaning the Calais Jungle area, not giving them a state!

"This should be Israel's basic demand: that a united Palestinian political leadership will recognize the right of all the citizens of the Jewish State of Israel to live in peace and security, alongside the State of Palestine." Such a simple solution but it is obvious that Palestinians will never agree to it. I suggest the 4 million "Palestinians" who moved to this area move back. They have 62 other Muslim majority countries they can live in. Then I suggest that Israel adopt a one state solution and the "Palestinians" who are left will be more that happy to live in an Israeli state.

To have the French mediate the Palestinian-Israeli crisis is the biggest joke in the world. They lost two world wars, Viet Nam and anything else they were involved with militarily. To have Israel's fate in their hands is the most ridiculous thing I have heard lately, and I voted for Hillary.

Mr. Shaw, this is so very true and it hurts to even admit it.
The French, right now, cannot possibly ask anything of any nation due to their rabid, reactionary, policies in their own nation! They actually do NOT allow their own citizens to express anger over the abnormal, criminal, behaviors of Muslim migrants living deep within cultural centers. They support changing the curriculum in their schools to reflect a history that paints misinformation as fact! They force their own citizens to endorse Ramadan dietary changes in what is secular education! Can Israel obtain fair and just resolutions from a nation drowning by cowering to Islamist OIC pressure! Absolutely Not!
Israel has and should continue to adjudicate her own peace initiatives:who else knows what is truly happening up front and personally to Israelites than Israelites, themselves!?!?!
Mr. Shaw, I am a virtual nobody but if it is so painfully obvious to a nobody that only fanatical caliphate Muslims are in office in leadership positions in the PA, how much more painfully obvious it must be for YOU!

The best method for dealing with Abbas is to pay no attention to him. He has no authority to act unilaterally anyway. His only function is to repeat what he knows Israel will reject. I think it is part of the scheme to exhaust the UN, forcing it to take action in declaring a Palestinian state, completely shutting Israel out of the deliberations.

If the same type issue was against Russia, the question being Crimea and what nation has sovereignty there, the UN would dismiss the issue, it would not fool with Russia.

But, Israel, its small size and population is thought by Anti-Semites of the EU-UN as quite another story. The Muslim-driven UN believes it can use a UN facade to "bully" Israel and to satisfy the ongoing Palestinian hope of a Palestinian state from "the river to the sea." In such a case, I think Israel will mobilize all of its military resources and prepare itself to fight.

No Israeli terms have been acceptable from its very beginning as a state, Islam is driven by one issue alone, and that is motivating the UN to win a military confrontation that the Arab states combined have never been able to win. Islamic prejudice against Israel has been at work in the EU, which has been appeasing Islam in the first place. Islam wants the EU nations in their fear of Islam to appease Islam by doing what Islam expects of it; to end Israel's existence or cooperate in that action.

The USA, under a President Trump, have not yet been noticed by the single-minded Palestinians and their UN stooges. They would be mistaken to believe Trump will be another Obama. That, he will definitely not be.

Security and freedom are not given and granted by charity and kindness of others. They are earned by blood and sacrifice. It has been like that this eternity. The so-called international community, which is a bunch of dhimmi countries, cannot be relied on for Israel's security. These dhimmis are kind to Islamists and Muslims but not towards Israel, Jews, Christians. Israel got some security after the 6 Day War through the sacrifice of its own people not because some international community defended Israel. The international community did not even squeak when Iran repeatedly reminds the world and the international community of another holocaust.

As the leader of the West AND the world, the Trump administration can play a MAJOR and dramatically role in changing the future of the ME. The US have a lot to play with and it would require a minimum of convincing Putin where his interests lie!

Whether Western diplomats truly believe that the resolution of the Israelo-Palestinian conflict is the key to Middle East peace, their governments seem to have abandoned any belief in Israel's moral right to survival. No EU leader would dare to depart in public from pledges of support for Israel but their words are constantly belied by their diplomats - most famously by a former French ambassador to the UK who called Israel "a shitty little country". The public affirmations of support are also belied by the billions of euros poured into Gaza and the West Bank, a good deal of which finds its way into the hands of extremists and their front organisations. There can be no trustable peace so long as Hamas remains in existence and retains the ability to hold the other Palestinian actors hostage. Abbas has had a free ride from Obama and this will change under Trump but will not alter the fundamental European hostility to Israel on which the Palestinians are banking for long term victory on their terms. Europe is engaged in a fundamental cultural realignment based on the conciliation of its growing Muslim population and Israel can only be a victim of this. The notion that the conflict is a barrier to peace elsewhere in the Middle East has no logical foundation and is intended as a distraction from more vital issues such as Israel's right to live in peace within secure borders. As in so many other areas, the conflict has become a proxy for the Left in its permanent battle with the Right in Europe and ideology matters more than morality or the survival of the only true democratic outpost in the Middle East. The anti-Semitism that has overtaken much of the British Labour party and leftwing media is an excellent example.

If you become my slave, we will have peace, I guarantee it!

Even if the whole world is against Israel the country MUST stand firm. With Donald Trump in power at the USA many of his appointees are well aware of the truth that the Palestinians do not want peace they want it all and they will commit genocide against the Jewish people if it were possible. So make sure it never becomes possible.

If ANYONE attacks Israel again then my suggestion is "Stop listening to the UN, the EU and the other weak, already invaded-by-Islam western nations and ignore their idiotic calls for restraint and if you will pardon my English. "Win the bloody war once and for all!" Conquer your enemies, then disarm them, prosecute those that commit humanitarian crimes and make damn sure they can never, ever try again!". Take the land that your G-d promised you, annex all of it including, Gaza, Sinai, Judea, Samaria, Lebanon, and even Jordan if they get involved against you. (It was supposed to be yours anyway and Britain betrayed you).

This is what Britain, America and their allies did to Germany and Japan in the Second World war and it is the only way to peace.

I like Netanyahu, but he must take advantage of the opportunity of a pro-Israel POTUS or he will be betraying the Jewish Nation and if he gives in to false diplomacy he must go and be replaced by a leader with the heart like King David. There is a time for peace and a time for war. But when you have to go to war you must win; in Israel's case you cannot afford to give any more to deceivers, liars, cheats, globalists and genocidal maniacs.

Dear Mr.Shaw,
Your article assumes that the international community is interested in peace between Israel and the Palestinians and is therefore pressuring Israel to make dangerous concessions. I see it differently. I think the international community, or most of it at least, couldn't care less what happens to Israel. Were we Israelis to make the concessions they demand and were the Palestinians to take over and destroy us, I am sure many crocodile tears would be shed and hypocritical eulogies uttered but in the end they would be glad to see us gone. Another problem solved for them. Remember that in a recent survey, I don't remember which, Israel was considered more dangerous to the world than Iran.

BUT THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN! Suicide is forbidden by Jewish law and we will not commit suicide by giving in to the pressures of the international community.

Arabs cannot and will not accept peace with the Jewish nation of Israel. The Islamist will only be satisfied when all Jews and Christians have either left the land or are completely annihilated...or both.

Hamas is a Muslim Brotherhood offshoot and a remnant of the Nazis. Why else is "Mein Kampf" still one of the best selling books in Palestinian territory?

It would be interesting to see how many Israeli Arabs would enjoy living under Hamas, war, tyranny and inter sect hatred. What an example Hamas and Fatah portray. Add a Caliphate, Iran and Isis into the equation, together with a continual war with Israel on their doorstep, is this the dreamed of future. Poverty, strife and terror? Would be a fascinating consensus?? Already students at Bir Zeit University are showing their contempt for The Palestinian Authority. They can freely vote in a democratic society, in the comfort of living with freedom of self expression. What is this noble cause that they imagine? It is like expecting Assad and the Muslim Brotherhood to join hands in Syria and live forever blissfully in peace. Brother and brother cannot live in peace. What can we infer regarding cousins??

No & NO are still valid. Hamas and the PLO still have their charters aiming to destroy the Jewish state and replacing it with a Islamic state. There is no deal possible with those Islamic terror gangs.

Article 80 UN Charter 1946 agreed by ALL the then nations, leaves Israel with 20% of the Jewish Home land having conceded 80%, Transjordan, to Arabs in full and final settlement of all claims in what became Jordan, the second state.

Much land practically the size of Israel and Jordan, owned by Jews living in the middle east was confiscated from 1948 on without compensation.

Palestinian people were invented by the KGB in 1967 as a cold war tool. These Arabs are loathed by their brethren and were used as a tool since 1948 to serve despots and dictators, want to destroy Jews and their State.

I am hoping that the 22 Arab states can absorb all Arabs now west of the Jordan. It is folly to expect Jews to live together with neighbours bred on hate. Coexistence apart will in my opinion work best.

If Israel gives in to the demands of the so-called International Community, then Israel and its Jewish people are a bunch of fools. The Palestinians will never keep their promises and will always have the full support of not only their fellow Muslims, but also the support of many people around the world, especially Europeans. In other words --- the International Community. If the International Community really cares about the Palestinians (which they really do not), they would find room for them elsewhere. They are not worried about the Palestinians, they just would love to get of the Jews --- once and for all, PERIOD. So please stop pretending and stop picking on Israel --- one of the few remaining "normal" countries in the world --- enough is enough. Thank you Barry Shaw and Gatestone.

Even if they will say what you wish them to say (which of course they never will), do you trust their promises? Piece of paper and empty promises that can be reversed any moment, in exchange for Jewish lands in the heart of Israel? REALLY???

I find it amazing that politicians around the world expect Israel to make concessions whilst the political hierarchy continues to deny Israels right to exist. Obviously these dimwits from around the world have decided (quite rightly) that the Palestinians will never make any concessions and if the did would not keep their side of the bargain, so have decided the only way to try to look relevant is to demand Israel makes concessions. They should try living in a country which promotes Jihad of your people at their schools and brainwash their children to hate their neighbors.