Belgium's World Cup Football Riots: A Symbol of the Failure of the Migration Policy

Alain Destexhe is right.

I am a person of Polish ethnicity born and bred in Yorkshire , England. In matters of sport I support the Representatives of Poland as a rule. I do support England in the sports that the Poles do not play -- Cricket & Rugby league. The reason is simple: the people representing Poland are just like me in ethnic terms. I find it easy to identify with them as opposed to identifying with the Representatives of the country where I was born.

It should be noted that in the aftermath of the Brussels riots, similar incidents took place in France and Germany within areas with a considerable Muslim population.

In Germany, the violence of such riots was mostly omitted from the news or at least grossly under-reported. While Brussels may be ahead on the road to perdition, other places in Europe aren't that far behind.

patience---wait for more.

The excellence of these comments gives a glimmer of hope for the West even if no clear grounds for hope are visible at the moment. Progress (or recovery) would seem to require a careful set of strategies and tactics 1) for reasserting the primacy and economic efficiencies of nation states, 2) for reforming the curricula of primary and secondary schools at thelocal, regional and national level, and 3) for prioritizing specific objectives and then building alliances at the local, regional and/or national level to achieving these one by one. As each objective is met then a new focused alliance involving perhaps different entities can be formed to focus on the next objective. Political parties are not useful at the beginning of this process, as they usually feel compelled to take clear positions on a number of difficult or controversial issues simultaneously. That makes intra-party unity difficult and the party a weak combatant and advocate.

In the U.S. one of the most effective change agents to operate this way was the late John Tanton, a liberal, pro-choice, environmentalist and population stabilizationist who created the Federation for American Immigration Reform in the late 1970s who got large numbers of Americans from across the whole political spectrum to fight for lower levels of immigration, both legal and illegal, as recommended by various national commissions and a majority of the electorate.

This has much to do with the triumph of Cultural Marxism. For some reason I have never quite understood, the Left has a high regard for Islam, and forget that Islam will - one day - swallow the Left whole. They perhaps think of the Umma as being the same concept as the Proletariat.

To the Left - "YFII" - your future is Islam.

You're right. Denial. That's the word.
President Carter suffered from brown bag over head denial over the Islamist foaming at the mouth to depose the Shah. Blithering Biden is in denial, if and when he's capable of thoughts, about energy and immigration. Democrats are in denial that their version of Socialism won't end badly as it has elsewhere.
Those making decisions will be in denial right to the minute they are told to undress for their concentration camp uniform.
Then it will sink in.

The narrative doesn't spoil it, it confirms it.

The biggest ramification of the open border/bleeding heart/ Woke policies is the import and thus re-introduction of - for the west- long discarded and indeed extinct social and religious practices.
Womens lib and child protection are possibly the biggest victims of the islamisation of Europe.
It is sad and telling to see that women in their own countries (eg Iran, S Arabia...) are fighting for reform and rights, whilst the west goes alll dark ages and turns a blind eye to the forceful pseudo conversion of its own!

It's too bad people don't learn about the fall of the Roman Empire anymore. All this would look familiar.

European culture is dead. My wife grew up in Austria. Her family tells us that Salzburg is almost more Turkish than Austrian in places. I have a friend from Sweden who says the country is almost unrecognizable compared to what it was 10 years ago. The Europeans have become so Liberal and "welcoming" of all the illegals and immigrants from the Muslim world that they've reached the point of no return in preserving their culture.

My guess is Belgium's problem is conscience from Congo history and more recent diversity education. Today's native Belgians have to get over it. "Diversity" ideology came about when the "diverse" numbers were small. There is a saying in law, "Equity abhors a forfeiture". The long native Belgians should not have to forfeit their country to hegemonic migration.

The finest bottle of wine, when diluted, is worthless!

"advantages of the welfare state"? My reply to that statement is "the wages of sin is death".

Europe's sins resulted in mass death in WW1, WW2. Then... utopia, nirvana! Europe supposedly found its way to pardise. Cradle-to-grave socialism (oh, sorry, that last word should have been "welfare"). Tax the people to death so that the government can be even more bloated, with the empty promise of a few pennies back during old age. Then it was "the sky is falling!", global warming! Little European countries will save the entire planet by.. you guessed it, more bloated government (made possible by squeezing the peasants even more). Oh, I forget.. women's rights to kill the unborn. Yes, that was also a part of utopia. Women who don't marry mortal men become brides of the welfare state, resulting in even more gov jobs! Also the young stay in colleges longer (more gov jobs), to avoid doing the dirty work. All waiting for that utopian job where the peasants serve you.

All this sin. The result has been death. The death of nations.

Now the bloated Euro governments realize that there are not enough workers. So they encourage human trafficking! Makes sense. Only young rough men will make it through the gauntlet. They will do the dirty work. And pay the taxes to support the entitled Europeans (the elderly care nothing about Europe's future beyond the remaining 20-30 years they have on Earth). And most importantly, the new arrivals are peasants, and will stay as such! They are no threat to the gov bureaucrat class.

"What is most distressing is the denial and the total absence of debate on " ... what I wrote above.

The Peoples of Europe have elected the wrong politicians. The Dutch should have Geert Wilders in charge and maybe their farmers would not be faced with the fights their now have with their government. The French turned away Eric Zemmour and Marine Le Pen. At last, the Swedes have seen sense. Perhaps the Belgian's will follow soon.

There are 3 separate "parts" here, the normal, the abnormal, and the pathological.

It's perfectly normal for fans to pick their own favourite football club and to support it, vocally. football fans can be notoriously partisan.

A little less normal is for fans to cheer against their own country. Moroccans living in Belgium clearly do not identify as Belgian. This should be a concern, not because of football, but because it reflects an alienation which can cause serious social issues.

But on top of it all is the violent behaviour which has been excused, coddled, and normalized, by well-meaning "progressive" fools. the violence is the spearhead of a change which aims, overtly as well as covertly, to tear up the social contract. instead of producing a multi-cultural paradise, they are enablers of a new barbarism, in which they will fear to live.

I find it interesting that Islam couldn't keep European countries by the sword but are doing it by the bed. Also, European so-called "leadership" applauds itself as they extinguish their cultures.

One may feel sorry for individual Belgians but not particularly for the country overall. Belgium brought this upon itself. It's not coincidental that despite the existing enmity between Flemings and Walloons the European Union is headquartered in Brussels. And probably not entirely accidental either that the Belgians were about the most brutal of the colonial powers.

My family were refugees from post WWII Germany and we are not what they consider in USA, white. What I have seen here and elsewhere on my service and travels, Europeans and other white people are under political white victimization policy by politicians who seek to win with the use of minority votes. White politicians using race baiting and guilt against opposing whites politicians and whites in general who never committed hate against anyone or group. DNC and Biden perfect example. People need to AWAKE and stand our ground and stop these bigots and get a hold on our immigration policies and enforcement.

One wonders if the whole root reason for the troublesome growth in immigration is due to the legacy of imperialism. The founding drive for empire was economic. For acquiring markets, the resources of external lands, and their labour at cheapest cost.
The United States though led the campaign against European imperialism after WW2.

With the demise of European empires, willingly or unintended, inverted imperialism arose. The structure now is for the importation of external populations to increase markets at home, and to increase the pool of cheap labour, and skilled labour which comes cheaper than training indigenous would be employees. The recently trounced British P.M. Truss made no secret of that being her government's intent.

The initial inverted imperialist reasoning then results in chaos, with a deluge of settlers arriving with a contrasting raison d'etre. They embark to enjoy new opportunities period, and not as lackeys of the inverted imperialist. The latter though presumes his objective is working, and does so at no consideration of his co-indigenous.

Also, consider with internationalism being taken up by upper commerce, national loyalty does not exist for their strategists. Projection overrides, and includes utilising opportunity to employ cheap labour from all over the world, and indeed as in days of old their (countries like India and China) resources and ability to manufacture cheaply to maximise company profits.

To question is to be defamed as being racist. Add too a crusade method for ostracizing those who question motive, on the subject of 'climate change ' and environmentalism, and the perfect smoke screen for international exploitation exists. Also a brilliant economic opportunity for those investing in perceiving a crisis.

Forgive the usage of Radio Tirane (for those of us who remember the 1960s) type terminology. New words are perhaps necessary in cognition of our new reality.

It's hard not to look at the modern day gradual succumbing of formerly Christian Europe to Islam and not draw the historical parallel to ancient Israel's invasions by the Babylonians in the 5th century B.C. and for similar reasons. The major difference, however, besides the obvious difference in the respective religious impulses abandoned by the host countries which weakened the national unity is that at least the Babylonians left Israelites something to eventually return to and rebuild.

Everyone talks about illegal immigration via boats and the shortage of housing and services to cope with the influx but those things are irrelevant.
The fact is the rate of net immigration per se is out of control. At nearly a city the size of Liverpool (Half a million) arriving every year it is far too many for one of the smallest countries in Europe. This is so totally OTT it is beyond belief and it simply cannot continue.
At this rate it will soon result in anarchy, self destruction and civil war and yet anyone who has the audacity to even talk about it is immediately dismissed as a racist.

Belgium is lost now. Nothing can be done to undo the actions of the lunatic left. Now they have to live with the consequences of their decisions. It will be interesting to listen to their protests once they are required to adhere to Islamic ways of life and the Islamic Constitution of Belgium. This is inevitable.

Here in Belgium, any kind of debate about immigration is not only absent but strongly discouraged. Anybody who would dare say anything other than a praise of immigration and diversity will immediately be branded "fascist", "racist", "far right" and cut off the public space. The public broadcast network RTBf is the wokest radio and TV station are have ever seen and heard. You can see it as a subsidiary of the democratic party in the US.

First, is it integration or assimilation?
Its not like we were not forewarned these groups would not assimilate but in France it was made to appear that many of the North African "refugees" were assimilating and their population growth did not meet expectations.
That facade collapsed over 20 years ago. And before that based projected population growth migrants might have as many as 8 children to the French having just over 2, it was presumed that Islam and Muslims would be the majority. Entire cities in Italy have been transformed into Muslim.
It is almost pointless to oppose these mass migrations supported by the UN as a human right. And we see how in this nation even with Fentanyl deaths soaring into the hundreds of thousands unprocessed migrants bringing diseases, further exhausting fresh water supplies, blamed on climate change and poverty while bleeding American prosperity and breaking the bank to succor them. And the government claims there is no problem at the border? How can they say that when most Americans agree it is a self entitled big lie?

Biden and the DNC want the votes is probably the more cynical take. But breaking the American economy seems to be the radical lefts goal and open borders another means to do so. It is socialism that we must guard against because it is the great enabler and ally of socialism and any global ambitions, imagine any notion of global conspiracy that could exclude 1/3rd of the world's population o matter how much their religious indoctrination has conflict and stagnation woven into its design.... like socialism itself.

This article raises concerns about who is operating NATO. The big guys in the limos or the grunts who are Islamists.

Very sad how some die-hards will never abandon multi-culture, even when they understand its failures in immigration and with Islam. This means someone has to suffer, someone has to be inconvenienced, someone else pays for ludicrous largesse which will never make the end result any better. These someones are in the media, in government, and in church.

Western politicians live in dreamland. It's a false claim, a fallacy to keep up the same old mantra that multiculturalism is working. All over Europe where there are large Muslim communities, there are problems, there's hardly any integration All politicians turn a blind eye and a deaf ear to concerns. Politicians know they have made a complete mess of immigration and integration. None will admit the terrible mistakes, none will accept responsibility for their insane and ignorant policies. In most European countries their own governments have left their people wide open to attack by Islamists. Islamists won't stop until they conquer Europe and create a new Caliphate.

Politicians seem to think that time will solve any problems and that in time the friction will subside, but it won't. Islam is a religion that controls all areas of a person's life. There will never be peace on this planet as long as militant Muslims exist. The politicians can continue on the same path but nothing will change. I wish Western politicians could do more research before putting their own citizens at risk. Nothing will ever be achieved by pacifism towards Islam. If they can find a way to get what they want they'll go to any lengths. Most of Europe's cities have already caved into Islam and politicians cower in fear.

Let them complain to the EU in Brussels/Strasbourg.
We in Britain have no interest in their immigration policy.
But...er...we told yer. so. We do hope that non-country Belgium is enjoying their woke social 'freedom.'

Let us be blunt, the increasing multi-racial and multi-cultural nature of European nations are accidents waiting to happen. In the end native Europeans will take the law into their own hands because their elected servants seem to have no regard for either them or their nations...